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Old 08-16-2008, 10:12 AM
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Maybe all those "quotes" by Anton Yudintsev in Chivas' post #98 should be stickied at the top of the forum once and for all.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:56 AM
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Great idea.




And nearmiss, please, A: learn to read, and B: grow up.

Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

Chivas, thanks for the quotes, and the clarification on the engine/FM thing.
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Should we be suprised at the conspiracy theorists? It took them over 40 years to figure out that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy. They will be arguing over BOP for years after BOB has been released.
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:40 PM
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I thought it took over 40 years to try and convince us the Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy, when all the facts say he didn't. But then again i bet you believe man landed on the moon.
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:52 PM
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BOB SOW is a work in progress that can not be rushed to completion by anxious people. If it were dead, Oleg would step up and say so!...I'm sure that they are doing the very best that they can to get it to market
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:24 PM
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I dont think SOW is dead, but i have to say if it comes out in 2009 or 10 then it must hold the record for the most time taken to develop a game. We have been led to believe that Oleg and crew have been working flat out on this since 2006, if that is true then its gonna have to sell shed loads to recoup any cash.
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:58 PM
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I dont think SOW is dead, but i have to say if it comes out in 2009 or 10 then it must hold the record for the most time taken to develop a game. We have been led to believe that Oleg and crew have been working flat out on this since 2006, if that is true then its gonna have to sell shed loads to recoup any cash.
I have no inside info but I've followed the development of IL-2 and SOW since the beginning on all the related forums as they changed over the years. IL-2 was 7+ years in development and they weren't updating a existing sim at the same time. SOW started development around 2004 but most of the development crew were working on Pacific Fighters in 2005/6, PE-2, IL-2 1946 etc in 2007, not to mention all the free additions. They've only had a full crew working on SOW for the last year or so. If the sim comes out in 2009 or even 2010 it will be rather remarkable to have the next benchmark developed in under 6 years.

Unfortunately do to pressures of having SOW finished they had to pull the full crew into the development, so the 4.09 patch got caught in the middle. It had to happen at some point.


The developers support of the IL-2 series is unprecedented so I really can't understand people berating the developers actions.
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Old 08-16-2008, 08:13 PM
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have you given much attention the ads for birds of prey?

The name it is being sold under and promoted

IL2 Sturmovik:Birds of Prey

http://www.1cpublishing.eu/game/il-2...-prey/overview

Would you say that excludes Oleg? I would NOT think anyone, especially another developer could use IL2 Sturmovik to promote a game.

Anyone reading that name would naturally think Oleg was associated to a large degree with that product.

The name Il2 Sturmovik is unique enough and has enough clout among users it wouldn't be smart NOT to call the BOB SOW--->

IL2 Sturmovik Storms of War: Battle of Britain

Branding is what it is all about, and Oleg has a great brand name IL2 Sturmovik

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Old 08-16-2008, 08:19 PM
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For new forum members read with interest posts from

Oleg Maddox IL-2/SOW developer
Luthier IL-2 Pacific fighters/ Korean addon to SOW
Crazyivan1970 talks to Oleg on occasion and provides valid information on their projects

some interesting posts from

SaQSon modeller
Foobar modeller



The rest of us are speculating.
Some of our speculations are based on posts from the above group.

All of us want more info. Some of us are willing to wait, others will post outrageous speculations, with nothing to back it up, in the hopes that it will draw more info from the developers.

From what I've seen over the years, any info given by the developer is more detrimental to the cause, than helpfull. Of course I'm not in the above group so read, but ignore this post.
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:31 PM
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[COLOR="Blue"]ElAurens[/COLOR[/B]];47349]Great idea.




And nearmiss, please, A: learn to read, and B: grow up.

Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

Chivas, thanks for the quotes, and the clarification on the engine/FM thing.
I'm not going to respond to the above ridiculous put down.

Personal attacks turn threads into a beligerent poster's battleground.

There is no way I could have ask you to prove it, and you not get off on it.

The way you worded your response there was no recourse, except to call you on it....or let you think you got "me told".

At least Chivas did try to make a decent response, which you certainly didn't.

I appreciate what Chivas did because I had not seen that thread.

Also, there was not mention of whether the renders were from BOB SOW or not. FLight models and damage models are not flight model renderings of the aircraft.

I appreciate all the content from one forum thread.

Proton45 - I pick up on your tone. I don't declare I have any special knowledge or insider anything. I'm a user of the IL2 just like everyone else... except for the elite few who know everything.

The console game means nothing to me.

I probably shouldn't have discussed it, but it does appear to me that resources from BOB SOW were used to develop it.

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One thing that triggers alot of the way I think is in the way the BOB SOW has not been promoted, except for a few words and aircraft images for two+ years.

Then the patch that is never finished. IMO, when people quit... they quit.

I do believe Oleg answered those postings that head this board, but I'm thinking we are just pumped a little information to keep us going for what reason I don't know.

When people plan to sell something they are excited about they are usually very eager to get potential customers excited as well.

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All we expect or look forward to from Oleg may be a thing of the past anyway.

If Putin continues to screw around with Georgia and George we sure as heck won't get a BOB SOW until the end of the next cold war.

Probably the only reason this boards hasn't been shut down is the http doesn't end in ru.

The ice is getting thin guys. If the board does get shut down like Lockon ----

I've enjoyed all of you guys and the community, including some of you that may not be that happy with me.

Arguments are excellent tools for thinkers and I think you'll miss alot in life if you can't tolerate constructive argument.

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