King’s Bounty: Warriors of the North Release Date Announced / Pre-Order Available

[Mygaffer]

Originally Posted by Mandea

I consider the pros outweigh the cons as far as steam is concerned. No updates (gog) is no go for me. Every cd I've ever owned caused problems after a few years so I am happy I no longer have to use them. I understand the problems others have but for now it's either steam or nothing.

GOG.com has updates. When an update is released for your game it will tell you up your library a number, this is the number of games with new updates or content.

[Mygaffer]

OK, well I am sorry for all these posts in a row! If a mod wants to condense them I would thank them.

Anyway, lets get the conversation back on topic! There are other threads for this DRM debate.

Who else here is concerned about the "Valhalla Armor" pre-order bonus? The tag line is that it will give you an "... additional a strong boost to the character’s attributes"

I hate it when pre-order items affect balance of a game. With New Vegas I deleted all those stupid packs, as they made the beginning of the game waaay too easy in a way that really took something away from the game itself.

I hope it is not the same with this armor set although I can always just not use it.

It will also be interesting to see if they just reused the maps from the The Legend or if they have redesigned them as well. I really did not like the island design of Armored Princess, it was just not as fun to explore a lot of smaller places compared to a few larger places. I suspect it is easier or faster to design though...

So I am hoping this is more like a full release than an expansion. Time will tell.

[Mandea]

Originally Posted by Mygaffer

OK, well I am sorry for all these posts in a row! If a mod wants to condense them I would thank them.

Anyway, lets get the conversation back on topic! There are other threads for this DRM debate.

Who else here is concerned about the "Valhalla Armor" pre-order bonus? The tag line is that it will give you an "... additional a strong boost to the character’s attributes"

I hate it when pre-order items affect balance of a game. With New Vegas I deleted all those stupid packs, as they made the beginning of the game waaay too easy in a way that really took something away from the game itself.

I hope it is not the same with this armor set although I can always just not use it.

It will also be interesting to see if they just reused the maps from the The Legend or if they have redesigned them as well. I really did not like the island design of Armored Princess, it was just not as fun to explore a lot of smaller places compared to a few larger places. I suspect it is easier or faster to design though...

So I am hoping this is more like a full release than an expansion. Time will tell.

all maps are new, of course. it's a 60 hour long game, not a merely 20-30 expansion.

I think you will find the valhalla bonus while you play, but not in the beginning, so you won't be too powerful from the get-go.

[Mandea]

Originally Posted by Mygaffer

GOG.com has updates. When an update is released for your game it will tell you up your library a number, this is the number of games with new updates or content.

gog has old games, and that's it. can you buy dishnored from gog today? batman AC? nope. I want to play a game today, not 1 year later, or 2, or 3...

[Dwagginz]

Originally Posted by Mygaffer

I know some people have reported problems, maybe that was with older versions of Steam, I know Steam is a LOT better now than when I first started using it in 2007.

It is still far from perfect.

Originally Posted by Mygaffer

Actually there is a non-steamworks version of TL2 that you can buy.

That was stated on the previous page, and I sit corrected.

Originally Posted by Mygaffer

I hate it when pre-order items affect balance of a game. With New Vegas I deleted all those stupid packs, as they made the beginning of the game waaay too easy in a way that really took something away from the game itself.

Well, you can easily disable things in FO:NV, and I found those packs made the introduction a little smoother, particularly for melee playstyles. But I don't think it's been stated that this armour set will be there from release - in fact the description is that you'll find it over the course of the game, so it sounds to me like you'll probably have to buy it.

Originally Posted by Mandea

gog has old games, and that's it. can you buy dishnored from gog today? batman AC? nope. I want to play a game today, not 1 year later, or 2, or 3...

That's because GOG is not a vendor of brand new AAA titles (beyond their own releases), almost all of which come with some form of DRM. They are, however, increasingly becoming a launch platform for indie releases - Resonance, Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams, Divinity II: The Dragon Knight Saga - Developer's Cut (only that specific edition) and a number of others have released on GOG alongside - or before - other platforms.

GOG has never been advertised as anything but a vendor of classic (and now EU/Rus games from a few years ago and indie games) games, so it's a bit of a poor argument to use against them.

Originally Posted by Ryder

I'm sorry, what was that? Are you telling me when I buy the boxed version I need Steam???

That is generally the case with Steamworks games. Skyrim, Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War II, Saints Row the Third and a number of other games exclusively use Steam, regardless of the way you buy the game.

[Mandea]

Originally Posted by Dwagginz

GOG has never been advertised as anything but a vendor of classic (and now EU/Rus games from a few years ago and indie games) games, so it's a bit of a poor argument to use against them.

I don't care if it's poor or not because it wasn't meant as an argument against them. I like gog, it's just that they are very good for old games, not new. So, I don't see the point in this discussion related to gog. It's a discussions with no use in the end (about gog).

[Dwagginz]

They're good for new games if a publisher uses them. 1C are one of the publishers who could definitely benefit from releasing new titles on GOG, including Warriors of the North

[Mandea]

I guess their revenues are higher if they use steam instead of gog (steam is better known) and maybe easier. Whatever their reasons are they won't change until 26, so if you want to play this game on lauch day.....

[jake21]

I've heard (no method to confirm) that steam is cheaper (than gog) for small publishers/developers as well as having better distribution.

[Mygaffer]

Originally Posted by Mandea

gog has old games, and that's it. can you buy dishnored from gog today? batman AC? nope. I want to play a game today, not 1 year later, or 2, or 3...

Actually the do not only have old games. They used to, now they are expanding into new games. But somehow I get the feeling you are just wanting to attack GOG.com but I don't know why.

So I feel stupid for engaging with you on this when we are way off topic but yes, GOG sells new games and is working on getting more. Of course many publishers still cling to terrible DRM and so don't release their games on GOG as GOG requires no DRM.

If you want to argue FOR DRM good for you. Go buy some Ubisoft games and hope your wifi connection does not drop...