can we give devellopers a second chance with BOM ?

[msalama]

Not a 2nd chance for me since I never bought CloD in the 1st place, but yah, why not? Will wait for reviews and expect more complexity á la DCS before deciding however, but in principle see no reason not to if it's good

[Friendly_flyer]

I'm a bit in your boat Msalma, I wanted to buy a new computer for CoD (my old one has been an excellent gaming-machine for 10 years, run 1946 very well), but wanted to wait until CoD was stable and I could buy a combination of component that worked well. I guess now is the the time to start looking for that computer...

I'll buy CoD before BoM though, I need my Hurricane fix!

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by He111

That's a stupid comment ..

If they lower the standard then why buy BOM ?? better just to buy 1946, alot cheaper, far more planes, far fewer bugs.

People like CLOD because it sets a higher standard, which people upgrade their computer to match, like Rome 2 and other quality games. Going backwards smacks of desperation and stupidity.

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Because even with "lower standard" the new IL-2 series is the best thing out there. IL-2 1946 don't match the experience anymore.

And i'm stupid? I don't think so... I don't see all this "lower standard" in CloD, sorry to say...

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

Originally Posted by Codex

I will not be pre-ordering or buying on release day based on blind faith.

I'd be happy to buy in if they do one of the following:

Release a demo so we can get a feel for it, or as with DCS, open up beta testing for the price of the final product. I'm very happy with the experience I've had with DCS' P-51.

ditto! I'm thinking post first patch.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by priller26

Here is my flight in a spit.much different I think than yours.

I think i have a solution! Watching your videos, i can compare with what i see here, and if you try to lower the contrast maybe the effect isn't no noticeable like here.

When you hit the water, it´s much more brighter than here, and even in the cockpit lighting the transtion with SSAO is too much, maybe.

Try this! I think will solve the problem!!! Please try this in your monitor, because i think it's just that!!!

Fingers crossed!!!

If it doesnt work, i can see now that your problem isn't only the proppeler, all your graphics presents massive transitions from dark to much brighter. And maybe it's a bug... But let's try!

[klem]

Originally Posted by U505

Now the last patch of COD is released and all can see the final result of the game because we won't have any more fixed features exept whit the ones coming from BOM.We are now in front of a stone mile. will we continue to thrust Madox Game and buy the next sequel or not ? what is your opinions guys ? Despite a lack of communications of their part since COD release and after seing all the hard work they have done i think i will continue to give them my thrust and buy their sequel on release day! they proved they have done their best to fixed this game and at least this should be rewarded !!

Your choices are simple.

1. Stick your neck out and buy it to find out.
2. Wait for reviews, especially from this community which will give you far more insight than a one-page magazine article.
3. Don't buy it and close the door on your way out.

[Triggaaar]

I was happy to pay £50 for CoD just as a thank you for IL2. With BOM I'll want to wait until the game is in a good state. If that's at release, I'll buy it then. If it's 2 years down the line, that's when I'll buy it.

[Revvin]

Sound advice from Luthier which I will be doing:

Originally Posted by Luthier

Don’t give us your money on day 1.

[ChocsAway]

Originally Posted by yobnaf

They did a great job , CloD is best flight sim ever. The sequel will be a masterpiece !

Really! Your handle indicates that you are really taking the ssiP .

There will be no pre-order or future purchase of the next project by me.

I believe that Cliffs of Dover has been left in a very poor state for off-line players. I also believe that the devs have veered towards keeping the online players happy at the expense of the off-liners of late, which could well be a pointer towards the direction of the next project. The (still) poor AI and their lack of interest or inability to fix the radio messaging system is a good indication of that. Credit where credit is due though and I am happy with the engine (graphics) improvements over the last couple of patches except for the lack of real FSAA which renders CloD as an ugly duckling due to the hideous shimmering. Having said that I think the sim in its present state is how it should have been on release.

Also, I have no interest at all in the subject matter of the next project be it an MMO or whatever. Eastern front=already done to death for me personally, I'm really not interested in a 'tarted up' IL2 1946 or any kind of MMO for that matter. That may not be the case but I can't see it any other way to be honest.

I'm amazed that there will be no more work on CloD as I think one more decent patch could rectify the worst of the remaining problems for off-line players and make it close to being the best sim out there. As it is I find it ok for a ten minute dog-fight here and there but the lack of depth and other frustrations kill it for me.

The devs/publishers certainly owe the likes of Heinkill and Desastersoft a debt of gratitude for saving CloD from the depths of oblivion regarding actual content for off-liners. This hasn't been improved on since day one by the devs themselves and is another indication that CloD would always be heavily biased to the desires of the online player. Lets face it, as far as I'm aware it has only been recently that the sim has become a more stable and reliable experience for online players. The off-line content is nothing short of an abysmal joke.

To sum up, as an off-line player I think it should be re-named Cluster**** of Dover. I'm sure many off-line players have already run for the hills where CloD and any future products are concerned and I would hazard a guess that the figure is a good percentage of potential future customers. IMO it is also the devs attitude and lack of communication that has lead to a deep feeling of distrust. The fanbois on here think that Luthiers comments about his 'bread and butter' customers were highly amusing. I for one found them somewhat backhanded and insulting. Looking back I'd say that his heart has never been with the project and although it is not regarded as particularly PC the best way I can describe it is that for him and his colleagues CloD has become the 'red headed step child' of sims, and almost a half hearted stepping-stone toward the next project.

I have 3 copies of CloD. The Russian and English steam versions and a boxed collectors edition. Why? Well, to support the project and hopefully contribute towards continuing work on what should have ended up as the definitive sim. Unfortunately, it was soon clear to me that the chances of that happening would be pretty slim. Close though!

I hope the next project is succesful but to coin an overused cliche, 'Once bitten, twice shy' and as I've already stated, I'll pass on the next effort.

Peace,

Choccy.

[CaptainDoggles]

or any kind of MMO for that matter

God, could you imagine how awful an MMO would be?

Sorry, no MG-FF until you reach level 30. Going to a monthly subscription-based format would truly destroy this game.