Time now to let TD loose on CloD for bug fixing only! Not for new content? 1c listen?

Das Attorney · #1 10-19-2012, 04:14 PM

So what happens to all these bug fixes when 1C release BOM and Cliffs gets merged into the BOM code?

The way I see it, either:

Their fixes would be wiped out by the new BOM code
Their fixes would be incorporated in the BOM code, meaning in effect that they're working on the sequel for free.

Would they want that? I don't know. What would happen to their hard work on Il-2 1946? As it is, they devoting all their spare time to working just on 1946

Maybe I'm missing something, but it doesn't seem like they would get much out of it.

EDIT: These are my opinions/questions and I want it to be known that I'm not trying to speak for them.

pstyle · #2 10-19-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Das Attorney

So what happens to all these bug fixes when 1C release BOM and Cliffs gets merged into the BOM code?
The way I see it, either:

Their fixes would be wiped out by the new BOM code
Their fixes would be incorporated in the BOM code, meaning in effect that they're working on the sequel for free.

Last official word from luthier was that the two would not be merged. Sequel to be stand alone. I can't find the link right now, be see answers to questions thread from a couple of weeks back.

Ailantd · #3 10-19-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pstyle

Last official word from luthier was that the two would not be merged. Sequel to be stand alone. I can't find the link right now, be see answers to questions thread from a couple of weeks back.

You are wrong.
Sequel stand alone means that you will can buy only BoM and play only BoM. But if you already have CoD they will be merged. In other words: BoM will be not a DLC, but a stand alone expansion.

pstyle · #4 10-19-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ailantd

You are wrong.
Sequel stand alone means that you will can buy only BoM and play only BoM. But if you already have CoD they will be merged. In other words: BoM will be not a DLC, but a stand alone expansion.

You say it won't be stand alone, but then you say it will be stand alone... I'm confused.

Gamekeeper · #5 10-19-2012, 04:47 PM

In that path lies madness

pstyle · #6 10-19-2012, 04:47 PM

Direct quote from luthier;

. Definitely not planning to release any sequel features as add-ons for Cliffs of Dover, sorry.

GraveyardJimmy · #7 10-19-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pstyle

Direct quote from luthier;

. Definitely not planning to release any sequel features as add-ons for Cliffs of Dover, sorry.

He also said they would be able to be merged. What he is getting at here is that they will not release features for free for CloD- you will need to buy the sequel to get them together- or at least that's how I understood it when taken with his other posts saying they would merge.

FG28_Kodiak · #8 10-19-2012, 05:50 PM

Its like Forgotten Battles and Pacifik Fighters, both can played stand alone, but can merged also.

zander · #9 10-19-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ailantd

You are wrong.
Sequel stand alone means that you will can buy only BoM and play only BoM. But if you already have CoD they will be merged. In other words: BoM will be not a DLC, but a stand alone expansion.

The way I understood it was:
BoM already contains Clod planes and maps off the shelf.

He said something about time capsule, ability to fly spits and e3 in BoM.

NervousEnergy · #10 10-20-2012, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ailantd

You are wrong.
Sequel stand alone means that you will can buy only BoM and play only BoM. But if you already have CoD they will be merged. In other words: BoM will be not a DLC, but a stand alone expansion.

I'll have to go back and look, but I'm pretty sure Luthier said at one point that CloD assets would be included in the sequel. There would be no need to 'merge' the games since that would be redundant.

Though that also begs the question of why they so flatly state there will be no more patches for CloD. If the sequel will be an improved version of the codebase with more content assets, then why wouldn't they release incremental improvements to the engine as they're built, if only to test them? CloD's development has made it clear that 1C doesn't have a lot of in-house testing resources, which is understandable for a small dev.

Not that I'm upset about that. The sim runs great for me. I still play 1946 more just because that's where all the guys I fly with are (Spits vs 109's HSFX server), but Cliffs seems to run pretty sweet now. Just curious why they'd cut off all patches if the new engine is supposed to still be able to run the CloD assets.