4.11.1 is a Joke?

IceFire · #1 10-18-2012, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jeroll3d

I wonder why the 109 F4 behaves like a helicopter? Also would like to know why the i16 lost its ability to fire? I'd love to understand why all aircraft of Soviet front are much worse?

109F-4 wasn't changed in 4.11.

The I-16 fires it's guns just fine.

We had another thread up somewhere else saying how the Russian aircraft were too good. Can't win

TinyTim · #2 10-19-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IceFire

109F-4 wasn't changed in 4.11.

The I-16 fires it's guns just fine.

We had another thread up somewhere else saying how the Russian aircraft were too good. Can't win

Think he ment that "I-16 lost its ability to catch fire"...

Yeah, there's a grumpy bunch around from the very first days of this sim complaining about how über Soviet fighters are - instead of simply jumping into one and get on a populated server with skilled blue pilots (who don't just turn and burn at a treetop level) to learn the bitter truth.

DKoor · #3 10-19-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyTim

Think he ment that "I-16 lost its ability to catch fire"...

Yeah, there's a grumpy bunch around from the very first days of this sim complaining about how über Soviet fighters are - instead of simply jumping into one and get on a populated server with skilled blue pilots (who don't just turn and burn at a treetop level) to learn the bitter truth.

Yeah, something like that.

jeroll3d · #4 10-20-2012, 01:45 PM

I use google translate, sorry team.

I go found information to contribute. Post here.

K_Freddie · #5 10-20-2012, 10:22 PM

jeroll3d:
If you come across experienced 'blue' pilots.. they will not dogfight with you, but do 'hit and runs'. This is coz the I16 out-turns nearly anything.

The same story is applied when fighting the Japanese Zero...

jeroll3d · #6 10-20-2012, 10:39 PM

Friends, EVERY red squadron talk abouth this: 109 F4 is helicopter, no airplane, your structure, very strong, (titanium league?!) i16, (just curve), Lagg serie 4, Yak 1, very fragile, extremely exaggerated...were already considered planes vertical ascent. MIG no is TNT whit wings, is a fighter to bomber, in hight level, but your structure, in game, no is nothing, 1 shot, just ONE and fire in motor...please!!!

... the patch 10.0.1 and 11.0.1 is a bad, very bad joke!!!

EVERY better to germans airplane, but to Russian, nothing! His is amazing!

Yes, i know i16... your atual guns and nothing whit f4 is the same...f4 just curve litle open in relation g2.

K_Freddie · #7 10-20-2012, 10:59 PM

Well.. you must consider this point of view.

IL2 is a Russian flight sim, made by Russian aeronautical engineers and software developers. Why on earth would they make the 'enemy' aircraft better than their own... UNLESS .... they were better in some respects.

You can thank Oleg and the rest of his original team that they were not american, otherwise the P38/39/47/51.. B17/25/...etc would outfly the I153/I16..etc and the USA would have won all wars without trying - Actually the USA lost every war the've started

Getting back to the point... in Oleg's words about this sim.
"It's the pilot.. not the aircraft"
So.. stop complaining, get your act together... and start training

RegRag1977 · #8 10-21-2012, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by K_Freddie

jeroll3d:

The same story is applied when fighting the Japanese Zero...

This actually is a very good example. Flying the A6M fighter, especially when F4U "birdcage" appears on maps, it is really not easy to have kills and survive, you really have to pay attention to what you're doing, even if you have great altitude advantage.

When facing BnZ-ing fighters, it becomes a real nightmare...Then, generally it is not long before the poor A6M pilot turns into a fried chicken in his pit...

MaxGunz · #9 10-21-2012, 04:37 AM

Same old story after 11 years. Notions deduced from losing online reported as 'fakts'.

Where are the flight tests? Where are the screenies? Where are the links?

What is the stall speed of the 109 compared to Plane B and which has more available thrust at stall? That's what's behind the subjective helicopter experience. The perception is both relative and subjective, with flying skill playing a part.

See how far you can fly outside the lines on historic charts using the tests used to make those charts, then you have something to show Daidalos besides hot air and spite.