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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-11-2012, 06:39 PM
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Yes, 28-33K is a normal salary for the average programmer in Russia.
I have read its much cheaper to live in Russia, not taxed to death.

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LOL! Thanks Slip...I haven't laughed that hard in awhile. Yes...many of the hard core flight sim crowd "forgot" how to use a computer and what it takes to run a flight sim.<sigh>

Bad press didn't ruin the sales....it's the worst release in flight sim history that caused the sales to be bad. The bad press was(and still is) justified.

Your welcome, but think back a minute, people like to read reviews on-line before buying. Not saying the game didn't need work. I'm convinced Steam was a big part of the game freezing up.
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:37 PM
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I have read its much cheaper to live in Russia, not taxed to death.
Yes, it's a good money even for the life in Moscow.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:40 PM
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It didnt sell well because it was universally panned and they are still diddling around with fixing things a year and a half down the road, creating new problems as they fix old one. Why should this surprise anyone but fanboys?
I LOVE a good flight sim....but the operative word is "good". This thing has just worn me out..Im done with it for now.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:27 AM
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I think another possible idea would be to have 2 games rather than 1. One is the free to play MMO with payed additional features (similar to World of Tanks or something like that) and the other, hard core simmers for the middle aged person and some exceptions (like me, probably the youngest long term IL-2 pilot (insert self depressing comment about how only two of his real life friends have tried this game)).

This way, the MMO can fund the hard core half of it and will therefore deliver us a better simulator for the long term.

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P.S. Sorry if I offend anyone, I was trying not to.
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:38 AM
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I think another possible idea would be to have 2 games rather than 1. One is the free to play MMO with payed additional features (similar to World of Tanks or something like that) and the other, hard core simmers for the middle aged person and some exceptions (like me, probably the youngest long term IL-2 pilot (insert self depressing comment about how only two of his real life friends have tried this game)).

This way, the MMO can fund the hard core half of it and will therefore deliver us a better simulator for the long term.

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P.S. Sorry if I offend anyone, I was trying not to.
That may work under normal circumstances but in this case, why would anyone want 2 broken games ?

This thread is pointless. The only way to make this a great game, make money, make this a success is either come close to, meet or exceed expectations and right now they're still trying to find their butts with both hands.

There is no real nice way to put it, this is life this is business and they screwed the pooch. So the only way out of this is either they build a big ladder or bridge depending which metaphor you like best and climb out or get over it OR fill the hole while their still in it.

Its getting to the point where people don't really care which way it goes its just getting to painful to be stuck in limbo, either fix it or **** it.
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