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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-11-2012, 04:09 PM
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Just a a side note, me being someone that is in no way an expert on all this stuff, but it almost seems that what is being talked about here is almost out of the realm of what the CloD FM can calculate properly. As an example, how does it calculate weight correctly if its only based on either full or empty, no inbetween.

Now maybe I just dont understand their FM data and perhaps there are calculations going on that I dont see, but as you expend fuel, ammo, etc, the weight and flight characteristics will change.

So are we asking too much of the CloD FM? Would be interesting to hear what the programmer had to say about it, what knowledge he had on flight models, engineering background, etc... or if he is just a programmer punching in numbers without too much thought into what they actually are... if that makes any sense.

Not trying to rain on anyones parade or anything, just mostly a comment on the level the current FM could actually handle. And if throwing all this data around really matters if the FM itself can even really handle it.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:21 PM
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Just a a side note, me being someone that is in no way an expert on all this stuff, but it almost seems that what is being talked about here is almost out of the realm of what the CloD FM can calculate properly. As an example, how does it calculate weight correctly if its only based on either full or empty, no inbetween.

Now maybe I just dont understand their FM data and perhaps there are calculations going on that I dont see, but as you expend fuel, ammo, etc, the weight and flight characteristics will change.

So are we asking too much of the CloD FM? Would be interesting to hear what the programmer had to say about it, what knowledge he had on flight models, engineering background, etc... or if he is just a programmer punching in numbers without too much thought into what they actually are... if that makes any sense.

Not trying to rain on anyones parade or anything, just mostly a comment on the level the current FM could actually handle. And if throwing all this data around really matters if the FM itself can even really handle it.
The weight throughout flight DOES make a difference in game. Easist test you can do is take a 109 with 10% fuel and a 250Kg bomb... Take off and drop the bomb, then repeat with 100% fuel... You will definatley see a dramatic difference.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:56 PM
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The weight throughout flight DOES make a difference in game. Easist test you can do is take a 109 with 10% fuel and a 250Kg bomb... Take off and drop the bomb, then repeat with 100% fuel... You will definatley see a dramatic difference.
Large change in Drag to in this method.
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