1C wants to make money? Surely the original P-51, B-17 and Fw-190 'financial' sense?

[KG26_Alpha]

The Mediterranean theatre complete with correct aircraft shipping ground units & maps would be the next step after BoM that makes sense.

Simply bunging 3 planes and a map at customers isn't going to do anything for the series.

IMHO






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[Mysticpuma]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

The Mediterranean theatre complete with correct aircraft shipping ground units & maps would be the next step after BoM that makes sense.

Simply bunging 3 planes and a map at customers isn't going to do anything for the series.

IMHO






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Hi Alpha. That's a fair point. I was actually using those aircraft as a point of reference as 'popular' aircraft. In all honesty I know I would enjoy the MTO with P-40's and 109's/190's tangling in the air (or Spits/Hurri's vx Axis).

I'm not expecting 3 aircraft to be crow-barred into any environment, but if BoM is in the snowy wastes of Russia, the P-51's/190's and B-17's (or US Bombers) could represent "Operation Frantic" for example, so the environment can be 'tweaked' to match any era.

Alternately, FSX and RoF have a theatre of Operations and add aircraft into it so it's down to the Mission Builders to make believable environments for the aircraft to be in? Not the aircraft...it isn't their fault

Cheers, MP

[KG26_Alpha]

Maps have always been used in a non historical manner to suit the needs of the mission builder and thier imagination.

Regardless of the aircraft types and time lines, some of the best missions I have created have been with historically mismatched aircraft.

Personally i was hoping for larger theatre maps for CooP missions but the current state of the CooP gui puts a grinding halt on my CloD mission building.

The limited theatre aircraft plane sets and maps don't spark the imagination much especially when you drop on top all the bomber bugs and other problems related to creating a believable environment.

I have made missions in FSX believe me its not funny.

As for RoF I had so many graphics glitches and FMB problems I left it alone after 3 weeks trying.

IL2 1946 had the quintessential CooP mode and GUI accompanied by a varied theatre of ops with released plane sets (Luthiers Pacific Fighters not included) IMHO, I voted for the Med along with Oleg
If the new series follows the doctrine the old series did it will naturally build into another behemoth of WW2 theatres and equipment as is IL2 1946.


Lets hope eh



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[*Buzzsaw*]

Salute

As much as I would like to see an 8th Air Force Simulation, the current game engine has proved incapable of handling large numbers of aircraft successfully.

1000 plane raids? No chance with this game. If it can't manage 300 planes over London, how is it going to deal with 1000 over Berlin?

On the other hand, if the proper attention to logic had been followed, we would have seen a Mediterranean map using most of the existing planes, no need to build a whole new environment, Malta 1940/ first half of '41 could have been done easily, after all, it's mostly water.

[JG52Krupi]

The eastern front is the best place to go from every point of view IMHO.

The devs will get more as it will always sell more in russia.

We need a map that will allow a good rolling online campaign to be created and again the eastern front gives this as well. I know some here couldn't careless about the eastern front but personally I am happy to see Il2 go back to its original roots, I just hope we don't loose the best bits from COD when we do this.

[Chivas]

@Mysticpuma quote
"The only reason it's a critical time is because they obviously need to raise revenue....and wouldn't that happen with 'popular' aircraft and Theatres of war?"

Its a critical time.... because they have every crew member fixing the sim and adding content for the Sequel. They don't have the time or the personnel to start building aircraft for other theaters. Like I said I liked your idea, and expressed the same idea myself awhile ago, but only for very complex aircraft, like Lancasters, or B17's.

[csThor]

SLM

The first Fw 190 on the Eastern Front appeared with I./JG 51 at Lyuban in September 1942. Lyuban is, however, on the far side of the Eastern Front when seen from Stalingrad. It's a small town roughly 50km southeast of Leningrad. As such - if the sequel depicts the Battle of Stalingrad - no Fw 190 has a place there because none were present.

The closest (distance-wise) a Fw 190 ever got to Stalingrad was the posting of a Staffel of ground-attack Fw 190 A-5/U3 of Schlachtgeschwader 1 to Anapa on the Taman Peninsula in spring 1943 (long after the 6th Army had surrendered).

[slm]

Originally Posted by csThor

SLM

The first Fw 190 on the Eastern Front appeared with I./JG 51 at Lyuban in September 1942. Lyuban is, however, on the far side of the Eastern Front when seen from Stalingrad. It's a small town roughly 50km southeast of Leningrad. As such - if the sequel depicts the Battle of Stalingrad - no Fw 190 has a place there because none were present.

The closest (distance-wise) a Fw 190 ever got to Stalingrad was the posting of a Staffel of ground-attack Fw 190 A-5/U3 of Schlachtgeschwader 1 to Anapa on the Taman Peninsula in spring 1943 (long after the 6th Army had surrendered).

Like I wrote earlier, I don't know how 1c decides the contents of their sequels. Is it just time period and whole front or some more limited area? If the whole front, then it would be ok to include fw-190. My info about when fw190 appeared in east was from fw190 wiki-pages.

[BlackSix]

We're not planning Western front or Mediterranean in the near future. We make Eastern front now only.