Windows 8 and CloD (Merged Threads)

[roadczar]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

One question I wonder about is whether or not you can remove the pre-installed .Net-versions that are baked into Win8, install .Net 4.0 Client Profiles, install and successfully run CLoD and THEN install .net 4.5. Will test this, although I'm somewhat sure that the system will break horrendously Wouldn't surprise me that .Net 4.5 is so heavily integrated into the system that it'll never come out.

I may be wrong, but my understanding is .Net 4.5 is integrated.

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by roadczar

I may be wrong, but my understanding is .Net 4.5 is integrated.

Yep, but you can deactivate it through the Add/remove Windows Features-subsystem of the add/remove programs. Tried removing it from my lappie to test if it went boom, but the system still stayed up. It even reinstalled .net 2.0/3.5 to run the Windows 7 USB Tool.

Will see if I can get time to test things out on my gamebox tomorrow. Haven't had time for much the last few days due to work.

[HeavyHemi]

My thread asking for a possible timeline for a fix on this was closed due the the anti Win 8 forces. I had one try to convince me how HORRIBLE Win 8 was for gaming. My personal experience has been the opposite. Lower resource usage and stellar game playing. This is what is occurring:


The game installer is trying to install a redistributable that isn't compatible with Windows 8. I could be entirely wrong, but it seems to me that this could be as simple a fix as the installer detecting the OS and not installing this redistributable which I don't believe is required for the game to run.

[roadczar]

I agree it is a simple installer issue and most likely a basic fix.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by HeavyHemi

My thread asking for a possible timeline for a fix on this was closed due the the anti Win 8 forces. I had one try to convince me how HORRIBLE Win 8 was for gaming. My personal experience has been the opposite. Lower resource usage and stellar game playing.

Well, this is a pretty thorough test that finds no performance gain at all (Win 8 a tiny bit slower in most tests):

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/M...ormance/1.html

So "stellar" seems a bit like wishful thinking? You're sure you don't work at m$? Which game did you try that was "stellar"? Share some benchmarks as it sounds interesting.

EDIT: And yes, I have an MSDN Premium subscription and have been running Windows 8 since the first consumer preview - and I can't say I like it much (but a tablet with it would be interesting)...

[HeavyHemi]

Originally Posted by mazex

Well, this is a pretty thorough test that finds no performance gain at all (Win 8 a tiny bit slower in most tests):

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/M...ormance/1.html

So "stellar" seems a bit like wishful thinking? You're sure you don't work at m$? Which game did you try that was "stellar"? Share some benchmarks as it sounds interesting.

EDIT: And yes, I have an MSDN Premium subscription and have been running Windows 8 since the first consumer preview - and I can't say I like it much (but a tablet with it would be interesting)...

It's within the margin of error for every single title they tested. My performance has been stellar. Meaning stable and rock solid gaming. Hardly 'horrible'. The actual quote I was addressing was "Not to mention that win 8 is going to be an atrocious platform for gaming."

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...3&postcount=10
Not my experience. Perhaps a bit more paying attention to what I actually posted and not what you 'wished' I posted. Now how about back on topic to a fix? Seems to be a lot of upset posters here.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by HeavyHemi

It's within the margin of error for every single title they tested. My performance has been stellar. Meaning stable and rock solid gaming. Hardly 'horrible'. The actual quote I was addressing was "Not to mention that win 8 is going to be an atrocious platform for gaming."

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...3&postcount=10
Not my experience. Perhaps a bit more paying attention to what I actually posted and not what you 'wished' I posted. Now how about back on topic to a fix? Seems to be a lot of upset posters here.

Well, even though many of us in "the business" have had access to the RTM for two months or so the official release date is still almost two weeks away so I guess it's hard to "demand" it from Steam that is the one that starts the c++ redist installation before installing the game? And the redist installation that "fails" is from Microsoft themselves and if they had "failed nicely" with a "continue" button enabled that could let you proceed with a normal exit code there would be no problem? Hardly feels like an issue to take up with the developers? Not that I'm sure of it but the invocation of the redist is not done by them (i guess ). As I recall it the installation of C++ redist and DirectX is done for many games as part of the Steam installation "scripts" so it's really Steam that should fix it... Or rather the installer should have been made like the DirectX installer that is built with future versions of the OS in mind and simply exits with an "OK" exit code if a later version is already installed.

Not a big issue, and when Windows 8 is released I'm sure it will be fixed.

EDIT: Found a thread on the Steam forum that might help you as it seems like a "generic" Steam problem like i guessed above:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2736288

The Steam app id for Clod is 63950 by the way...

/mazex

[mazex]

And another possible solution as I don't have my Windows 8 machine here at home (but installing on a laptop as we speak ).

In the Steam folder for CloD (..\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover) there is a file called "63950_install.vdf" that contains the information below. How about trying to remove the part that is about installing the C++ redist? That might work? That is - remove the whole section with "VCRedist".

"InstallScript"
{
	"Run Process"
	{
		"DirectX"
		{
			"process 1"		"%INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\DirectX\\DXSETUP.exe"
			"NoCleanUp"		"1"
			"command 1"		"/silent"
		}
		"VCRedist"
		{
			"process 1"		"%INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\VCRedist\\vcredist_x86.exe"
			"NoCleanUp"		"1"
			"command 1"		"/Q"
		}
		"GDFInstall"
		{
			"process 1"		"%INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\GDF\\GDFInstall.exe"
			"command 1"		"/silent /installpath \"%INSTALLDIR%\" launchergdf.dll"
		}
		"DotNetFx40_Client"
		{
			"process 1"		"%INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\DotNetFx40_Client\\DotNetFx40_Client_x86_x64.exe"
			"NoCleanUp"		"1"
			"command 1"		"/passive /showfinalerror /promptrestart"
			"IgnoreExitCode"		"1"
		}
	}
	"Run Process On Uninstall"
	{
		"GDFUnintall"
		{
			"process 1"		"%INSTALLDIR%\\redist\\GDF\\GDFInstall.exe"
			"command 1"		"/silent /u /installpath \"%INSTALLDIR%\" launchergdf.dll"
		}
	}
}
"kvsignatures"
{
	"InstallScript"		"97740562954e36bc348aa61246de2c0aea013345248f3da2b649fd1d9d445f27abe0e2b5a50d3b17033ca9f15282334387556694fa2ac05c57aacb18fc02cbd51b11e160e331a8b9b3c7db870ed29cdee2438c2e7937f45ff272198408128d4a3176d73b5eead7ac78bb2e3138736a67ac8d04b812edda319bf5f3d5c0a0c37f"
}