Why so little interaction with the community?

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Storm of When

I never said it involved Jason buying out 1C who I know are a massive set up, I meant if perhaps he could acquire the IL2 franchise from Maddox games, I didn`t think it would be necessary to spell it out in full but I guess the finer points of the English language may not be obvious to the non English.

We suspect Jason either wouldn`t or couldn`t anyway, but if you want a fine example of how a dev involves himself with the community then Jason is a prime case, wow he even goes and answers questions on the forum, his team fixed a dog of a game and his set up continues to release 300+mb patches on a regular basis and thanks the purchasers for supporting his efforts.

So to put it in an easy to understand way, Maddox Games (if it`s still called that) could learn a lot from how the RoF team support and approach their community, if the reader is so blind that they deny thats fact then I`m obviously pissing in the wind.

You must of missed the ROF turmoil when it was also released "unfinished" albeit not as "unfinished" as COD was. Jason bought into ROF after the game engine was finished and now has a very good idea what the game engine can accomplish, so he can answer questions and provide updates with confidence. At the moment Luthier doesn't have that luxury, the much more complex COD game engine still requires alot of work. Even if Jason was able to buy COD months ago, it would not have been possible for him to confidently say what the future would hold for the sim, nevermind meaningful updates. That said the future of COD and the new IL-2 series will be told soon enough, they are running out of time.

[Storm of When]

I do remember Chivas, none of us could believe it when they said the Beta was over and they were releasing it, it was a bomb site full of bugs. I think they`ll fix this game at some point, but they need a better public face which costs nothing.

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by Chivas

the much more complex COD game engine

Really? How do you know it's MUCH more complex than the ROF engine?

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

Really? How do you know it's MUCH more complex than the ROF engine?

I think it's because 777 have stated the limitations of their engine. They (apparently) have limitations with the top speeds and achievable heights of modelling in the atmosphere. A ROF flying mate told me, so don't shoot the messenger. It could be rubbish though, I'm interested to hear the truth though myself.

[Lurker_71]

Originally Posted by Osprey

I think it's because 777 have stated the limitations of their engine. They (apparently) have limitations with the top speeds and achievable heights of modelling in the atmosphere. A ROF flying mate told me, so don't shoot the messenger. It could be rubbish though, I'm interested to hear the truth though myself.

Also, RoF has a nasty fundamental flaw in how it models cross-winds effects. (in short, cross wind rolls the aircraft). Jason acknowledged it, and said there's nothing they can do to fix it, short of a whole rewrite.

Big flaw indeed for what is otherwise an excellent flight sim.

[6S.Tamat]

Originally Posted by Osprey

I think it's because 777 have stated the limitations of their engine. They (apparently) have limitations with the top speeds and achievable heights of modelling in the atmosphere. A ROF flying mate told me, so don't shoot the messenger. It could be rubbish though, I'm interested to hear the truth though myself.

Funny because all the aircrafts in cod can't reach theirs ceiling, to not talk about clouds and meteo.
On the other side the complexity is growing with the new water simulation that rof is implementing.
After more than a year of "development " in my personal point of view the complexity of the sim is not either a good excuse or the reality. Something badly programmed is cot complex, it is only bad job.

[MadTommy]

For some reason this whole customer relationship reminds me of this sketch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNRGC...ture=endscreen

Watch it all... every bit is relevant, especially the end

[ACE-OF-ACES]

So much for the 'theory' that 1C took the money and ran or that Luither does not care let alone post here anymore and that 1C customer relations are for not

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=34617

[MadTommy]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

So much for the 'theory' that 1C took the money and ran or that Luither does not care let alone post here anymore and that 1C customer relations are for not

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=34617

Oh everything is just perfect now.. how silly of us all. You are right and 90% of the community where talking crap as usual.

Lets see how things progress before you bath in your own self appointed smugness eh.

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

So much for the 'theory' that 1C took the money and ran or that Luither does not care let alone post here anymore and that 1C customer relations are for not

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=34617

LOL! I almost feel sorry for Ace, he thinks that when luthier pops his head in once every 6 months for a patch announcement that equals "good customer relations". It's sad really.