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[killspeed]

... Stay on Target....
Ok, thanks.

I must admit many of the things I have been reading here goes over my head. I'll try my best to comprehend all this lingo. Its cool that I can pan around a fighter, they planes are beautiful!

[Meusli]

I'm still trying to get my head round some parts of this game. Its all about how far down the rabbit hole you want to fall. Just try and keep your hobby cheap unlike myself who's wife is wondering why her husband needs Trackir 4, throttle, pedales and joystick!

[Thunderbolt56]

Originally Posted by Meusli

Just try and keep your hobby cheap unlike myself who's wife is wondering why her husband needs Trackir 4, throttle, pedales and joystick!

Screw that! Quit lyin' to the boy. Those peripherals are REQUIRED for proper enjoyment of this sim.

[EAF92_Brigstock]

Originally Posted by Meusli

Just try and keep your hobby cheap unlike myself who's wife is wondering why her husband needs Trackir 4, throttle, pedales and joystick!

The long suffering missus LOL, I reckon there must be some sort of support group somewhere for sim widows
I've taken it to the next level and just started flying lessons at £180 a pop twice a month....that raised some eyebrows round my gaff..let me tell you

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by EAF92_Brigstock

The long suffering missus LOL, I reckon there must be some sort of support group somewhere for sim widows
I've taken it to the next level and just started flying lessons at £180 a pop twice a month....that raised some eyebrows round my gaff..let me tell you

The thing that surprised me when I finally learnt to fly real time was how much closer to real aircraft IL2 was then MSFS .. even though MSFS is supposedly GA planes like Cessnas and IL2 features old warbirds

Anyway as I have always said, why drive over a bridge when you can fly under it upside down. Good luck with it !! Make sure you do some spin training !!!!

[killspeed]

Yes, I am playing the old demo, but it is fun. I have learned that at least one of the plane variants is extremely finicky and have crashed twice before even getting to the objective.

I have not tried take-off yet, but I have been able to land. Ground targets are a little tricky as you say. I have crashed into or rammed them a few times, but I the more I play, the better I get.

I'll take a look at those links when I get home, thanks again for the support, and yes I'm looking where to buy the IL-2 1946 DVD for the best price.

I do plan to stay away from the P51 and maybe use a Hellcat variant, Hurricane or 109 as you suggest.

[killspeed]

I finally installed IL-2 1946 and have been playing online this week for the first time. I do have some issues and/or questions:

1) I was reading some other player's post regarding the physics of the aircraft and why they are so unstable and they are not like that in real life. I know when I fly, if I bank past 90* even at full throttle, I'm in a stall about 90% of the time depending on the aircraft. With that said I crash a lot! lol Maybe I should bank slower, build up inertia and then go for a hard bank?

2) I only use a Wingman FF joystick, and notice the elevators not move at all when I maneuver. Along with that, I see other players' aircraft move so gracefully in the sky, bank, spin, ascend, while I struggle to simply bank without stalling. Its hard to keep up with them and I am sometimes afraid if I bank and pull back on the stick, I'll stall. I suspect it has something to do with me not being able to control the elevators. Are most of you using some kind of pedal control to help you control your aircraft? Any advice? SaiteK?

3) I've read about trimming out the aircraft, but seems to fly any which way and not specific to one direction. I just have my hand on the stick for safety

4) Do you have any advice on setting my guns at a better convergance distance? 500 seems to far. Is there a way to calculate distance if an aircraft is say..1.00 away?

Thanks for any further advice. The simulator is awesome, even with me having trouble taking off sometimes. At times, I can't get myself away from the computer.

[Erkki]

Hello killspeed, good to see new people interested in realism too, and not Skie.. Ummrh, well, just arcade df.

Originally Posted by killspeed

I finally installed IL-2 1946 and have been playing online this week for the first time. I do have some issues and/or questions:

1) I was reading some other player's post regarding the physics of the aircraft and why they are so unstable and they are not like that in real life. I know when I fly, if I bank past 90* even at full throttle, I'm in a stall about 90% of the time depending on the aircraft. With that said I crash a lot! lol Maybe I should bank slower, build up inertia and then go for a hard bank?

Try MiG-3. Build up some speed and try turning - thats bad elevators. In general, the more speed you have the less likely you are to spin if you pull back hard. To keep your speed up, try not to always pull stick fully back. I, for example, almost never pull the stick fully back, usually only some max. 30%. The less you pull back the less you lose speed. Also, try not to raise the nose above the horizon while turning - that will also make you lose speed and eventually stall, so dont do it before you learn more.

2) I only use a Wingman FF joystick, and notice the elevators not move at all when I maneuver. Along with that, I see other players' aircraft move so gracefully in the sky, bank, spin, ascend, while I struggle to simply bank without stalling. Its hard to keep up with them and I am sometimes afraid if I bank and pull back on the stick, I'll stall. I suspect it has something to do with me not being able to control the elevators. Are most of you using some kind of pedal control to help you control your aircraft? Any advice? SaiteK?

Using the rudder does help, but not as much as you'd think. I played more than 6 years without using rudder at all(with keyboard in takeoff and landing) and I think I did fairly well then...

to BUZZSAW: in il2, trimming = moving control surfaces. Ie. != real trim. Elevator trim down and pushing stick forward = neutral trim and not touching the stick.

3) I've read about trimming out the aircraft, but seems to fly any which way and not specific to one direction. I just have my hand on the stick for safety

Dont think about trimming yet. Trimming will give you a few extra kmph in TOP speed (not acceleration). If you start concentrating on trimming before you have learned the gazillion other things you will only end up in being shot down even more often.

4) Do you have any advice on setting my guns at a better convergance distance? 500 seems to far. Is there a way to calculate distance if an aircraft is say..1.00 away?

For example the P51, P47, P38 and P40 have 105 mils gunsight. That means that when a plane with a wingspan of 10 meters (FW190, for example!) is 105 meters from you he is exactly the size of the gunsight. If hes half the size, hes 210m away, a third of the size means 315, double the size 55, etc. Different planes have gunsights of different size, most having "range rings" or lines for distance approximation.

The best way to learn is to keep flying and flying. And giving yourself new challenges. Once you've learned how to dogfight a little and you can hit others from angles as well, move to a more challenging enviroment. But also remember not to get used of(completely dependant) on padlock, invisible cockpit, external views, icons(labels) or la5fn/la7!

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

The thing that surprised me when I finally learnt to fly real time was how much closer to real aircraft IL2 was then MSFS .. even though MSFS is supposedly GA planes like Cessnas and IL2 features old warbirds

Anyway as I have always said, why drive over a bridge when you can fly under it upside down. Good luck with it !! Make sure you do some spin training !!!!

The Cessnas flight model is porked! It is underpowered and the gun button on the control yoke doesn't do anything! Also there is no abrieviated start up procedure!

[Kaptein_Damli]

Originally Posted by Meusli

I'm still trying to get my head round some parts of this game. Its all about how far down the rabbit hole you want to fall. Just try and keep your hobby cheap unlike myself who's wife is wondering why her husband needs Trackir 4, throttle, pedales and joystick!

Hehe...I know the feeling...Just buy one thing at a time, smuggling it in..I always laugh at myself when playing with friends fridays nights and got to take a piss...looking at myself in the mirror with the Track IR attached to a cap alway looks hilarious! lol!