The new Oleg Maddoxs

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Originally Posted by Trumper

But with all due respect the demo version was light years ahead of any of the other flight combat sims out there at the time so there was a huge noticeable difference.
Clod doesn't seem to have quite that gap above the others now and it's still not working enough.

May I clarify that a light year is still a year?

[II/JG53_Volker]

I will add this from a longtime lurker. I have Been around since the Start had a couple of accounts over the years, set up a new one when I built this rig as I couldn't remember the login details

I think that CLOD will get better, but, I also think that it was in a very poor state when released. As Mastiff said, when IL2 was first released it took quite a while to get better, However I don't think it was anywhere near as bad as CLOD to start with

I will await the next patch and will buy the sequel as I think there is so much potential in this game/sim that is yet to be realized.

~S~

Well I think Luthier has already made a name for himself.

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Well I think Luthier has already made a name for himself.

Who of you that complain about Luthier can tell for sure that all this was his fault? If there is obvious evidence for it being his fault, I would like to know...

Originally Posted by Continu0

Who of you that complain about Luthier can tell for sure that all this was his fault? If there is obvious evidence for it being his fault, I would like to know...

Obviously Luthier didn't make the game himself so yeah in that respect its not his fault, but he sure as hell sold it to us.

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Oh thats sigworthy tree! Much lulz!

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Obviously Luthier didn't make the game himself so yeah in that respect its not his fault, but he sure as hell sold it to us.

Aehm... sorry. But if anyone on earth would sell something like CloD in its initial condition on purpose, he wouldn´t be in the position of a teamleader for so long. Not in russia, not in the rest of the world.

And if you have to admit it yourself that Luthier "didn´t make the game himself" why would you accuse him with anything?

I have to admit that I don´t know much about the develomenthistory, but to me it seems like Luthier was left behind with a big mess to clean up. And BoM will tell if he did a good job or not. I won´t judge Luthier for something he can not fully be held responsible for...

Originally Posted by Continu0

Aehm... sorry. But if anyone on earth would sell something like CloD in its initial condition on purpose, he wouldn´t be in the position of a teamleader for so long. Not in russia, not in the rest of the world.

And if you have to admit it yourself that Luthier "didn´t make the game himself" why would you accuse him with anything?

I have to admit that I don´t know much about the develomenthistory, but to me it seems like Luthier was left behind with a big mess to clean up. And BoM will tell if he did a good job or not. I won´t judge Luthier for something he can not fully be held responsible for...

I'm not accusing him of anything, other than to say that he knew what state the game was in before it was released, the pre released videos showed no problems at all with CLOD, but it turned out they weren't in game footage they were movies like some of us suspected. We now know for sure that Oleg had gone over a year before the release of CLOD. Anyhow thats all history, the point is that Luthier has an oppertunity to put the record straight with this final patch and I hope he can.

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In every organisation there`s a perceived leader/CEO call it what you like and usually their elevated position means that when the crap hits the fan they have to take it on the chin. Mr Shevchenko is the perceived leader therefore he will be the one taking the flak, same in all businesses if the job turns into a croc the gaffer gets it in the neck.

I hope they do fix the game and if they do it will be via the next edition, I`ll buy it as I support all the flight sims by buying them, however this dev office needs to take a serious look at it`s PR because as has been stated repeatedly it sucks big time. As an aside if you bothered to read Tree`s objective posts more objectively you might find out he usually says it as it is whether you like that or not depends on your standpoint.lol.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Well I think Luthier has already made a name for himself.

Didn't you get booted for using one of those names?


While I don'y quite share the same optomism as you Mastiff, I do hope Luthier and crew can be as successful with CoD/BoM as IL2/FB/1946 was. I bought IL2 in Dec of 2002 and I had nary an issue with the fundamental playability of IL2. I can't say the same with CoD - no matter how much effort was poured into the creation. Oh yes, there are some fantastic inprovement and I know they are light years ahead of what IL2 offered, but there are to many issues marring the surface to really appreciate the good things of CoD.

I'll once again give the benefit of doubt to the development team. The publishers and financial backers seem confident enough in the project to continue it...... BUT I will look at the development updates with a more critical eye. Being from the west, I imagine the eastern market will receive first dibs on BoM and their opinions will weigh in my decision.

Yet, I'll still hope for the best - a sim on par AND even better than IL2. Time will tell.