Forget about the SU-26, Fix the Flight Models

[Ploughman]

Does it have to be either or? Can't it be both?

[Attila]

Nobody needs a su-26!

[JG53Harti]

Originally Posted by Attila

Nobody needs a su-26!

But you have so an airplane, where the current flight model can compare with reality. Or do you know a lot of people who still have a 109 or Spitfire and fly it every day?

[senseispcc]

Originally Posted by Ploughman

Does it have to be either or? Can't it be both?

Stop criticizing be constructive and help build something in place of only seeing what is not working see what is working 99% of the game is working ! Example the bad weather does not work think about it and most of the flying was done in good weather and bad weather flying is not a fun thing to do. Another example; your Spitfire is to slow at 17.000 fts it lacks 5 kph maybe you need to trim it better a little rudder trim does a lot to improve the speed of a plane. Be positive. And most of all do not forget this is a game not reality otherwise most of us should be dead all ready. And if you are still not happy there are many open source pc languages create your own air warfare simulation.

[Kwiatek]

+1000

Plz fix damn Flight Model and performacne of BOB planes.

If it have to be the last patch before sequel at least give us realistic and historical performacne of these planes and good flight model.

Most knwon isuses and bugs in FM code are:

- wrong Merlin engines ( MErlin III and Merlin XII) power settings not accurate with manuals ( for 87 octan version and 100 Octan) - including wrong RPMs settings, wrong mixture operation, too fast overheting and engine damage

- all planes are too slow expecially at the deck - British fighters are too slow ab. 30 mph ( it is funny when 100 Octan versions at emergency +12lbs boost reach only speed accurate for +6 1/4 lbs) and German 109s are too slow ab. 20-30 kph

- all planes have too low service celling

- 109 still have wrong slats working ( they open too late according to british test) and bad stall charactersitic

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

+1000

Plz fix damn Flight Model and performacne of BOB planes.

If it have to be the last patch before sequel at least give us realistic and historical performacne of these planes and good flight model.

Most knwon isuses and bugs in FM code are:

- wrong Merlin engines ( MErlin III and Merlin XII) power settings not accurate with manuals ( for 87 octan version and 100 Octan) - including wrong RPMs settings, wrong mixture operation, too fast overheting and engine damage

- all planes are too slow expecially at the deck - British fighters are too slow ab. 30 mph ( it is funny then 100 Octan versions at emergency +12lbs boost reach only speed accurate for +6 1/4 lbs) and German 109s are too slow ab. 20-30 kph

- all planes have too low service celling

- 109 still have wrong slats working ( they open too late according to british test) and bad stall charactersitic

Agreed, if you want to give us a new aircraft give us the Beaufighter or the gladiator and CR42

[esmiol]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Agreed, if you want to give us a new aircraft give us the Beaufighter or the gladiator and CR42

you realise what you said is idiot? the SU26 was plan to be in CLOD from the begining. it is not a new plane it is a missing plane.

and stopthinking about yourself guys. think about fan who ask to have the SU26

[zapatista]

the Su-26 is requested by people who use the il2 sim series for aerobatic flying, and with the high level of good modern information about the FM of this plane, it is a good test platform to see how good/real the flight physics modeling is in CoD/BoM

if luthier is confident to release this plane (and the model and design was done some yrs ago prior to the CoD release debacle), it means they are confident with the current state of the sim and provide us with a "precise measuring tool" to compare to RL performance of the same plane

adding it into the final patch is a good idea imho

[Ploughman]

Originally Posted by zapatista

the Su-26 is requested by people who use the il2 sim series for aerobatic flying, and with the high level of good modern information about the FM of this plane, it is a good test platform to see how good/real the flight physics modeling is in CoD/BoM

if luthier is confident to release this plane (and the model and design was done some yrs ago prior to the CoD release debacle), it means they are confident with the current state of the sim and provide us with a "precise measuring tool" to compare to RL performance of the same plane

adding it into the final patch is a good idea imho

Zapped it!

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by zapatista

the Su-26 is requested by people who use the il2 sim series for aerobatic flying, and with the high level of good modern information about the FM of this plane, it is a good test platform to see how good/real the flight physics modeling is in CoD/BoM

if luthier is confident to release this plane (and the model and design was done some yrs ago prior to the CoD release debacle), it means they are confident with the current state of the sim and provide us with a "precise measuring tool" to compare to RL performance of the same plane

adding it into the final patch is a good idea imho

It is not necessary to add this plane to determine the performance of the historical aircraft are not up to spec. Whether or not the SU-26 is present has no bearing on the other flight models. Spending time to develop this aircraft is an expenditure of time and resources which, considering the unfinished state of the crucial historical aircraft, is clearly not warranted.