Friday the 14th Development Update

macro · #1 09-14-2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

They are called beta patches for a reason...

come on krupi mate, the whole of clod has been a beta test for the russain front, why do you think they did bob first instead of the other way around?

to fund it. thats why.

fact is, id pay for a modern 1946, with all the theatres and aircraft. id just wish theyd admit it. this version of the game was a money making beta. nothing more. the money has to come from somewhere.

Its going to take alot of time and effort and money to get to the stage 1946 got to. that money comes from us with each release of this series,
I will buy each release of this series. because it will get better time after time. I just wish they hadnt started with BOB. by the time the game does get better and more playable for the 1946 crowd, the later era ww2 planes will be more popular to play (ie p51, fw190) and the BOB era will be forgotton. just like 1946, thats the main thing that annoys me the most.

JG52Krupi · #2 09-14-2012, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macro

come on krupi mate, the whole of clod has been a beta test for the russain front, why do you think they did bob first instead of the other way around?

to fund it. thats why.

fact is, id pay for a modern 1946, with all the theatres and aircraft. id just wish theyd admit it. this version of the game was a money making beta. nothing more. the money has to come from somewhere.

Its going to take alot of time and effort and money to get to the stage 1946 got to. that money comes from us with each release of this series,
I will buy each release of this series. because it will get better time after time. I just wish they hadnt started with BOB. by the time the game does get better and more playable for the 1946 crowd, the later era ww2 planes will be more popular to play (ie p51, fw190) and the BOB era will be forgotton. just like 1946, thats the main thing that annoys me the most.

Sadly that's what it looks like

, but I have logged over 500 hours in the game so I must enjoy it warts and all

BRIGGBOY · #3 09-15-2012, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macro

come on krupi mate, the whole of clod has been a beta test for the russain front, why do you think they did bob first instead of the other way around?

To fund it. Thats why.

Fact is, id pay for a modern 1946, with all the theatres and aircraft. Id just wish theyd admit it. This version of the game was a money making beta. Nothing more. The money has to come from somewhere.

Its going to take alot of time and effort and money to get to the stage 1946 got to. That money comes from us with each release of this series,
i will buy each release of this series. Because it will get better time after time. I just wish they hadnt started with bob. By the time the game does get better and more playable for the 1946 crowd, the later era ww2 planes will be more popular to play (ie p51, fw190) and the bob era will be forgotton. Just like 1946, thats the main thing that annoys me the most.

+1000
and the thing that annoys me the most is that money makes the world go around.

yobnaf · #4 09-15-2012, 01:37 AM

very good news, keep up your great work, luthier, b6 and team

dflion · #5 09-15-2012, 02:00 AM

The positives.

1. Working hard on delivering a stable, working milestone for the sequel
2. We then return to now almost-final patch, cram as much as we can into it and make it our final COD patch
3. The next time it will be updated is when you install 'the sequel' over it.
4. Q&A. Will there be a complete readme - Yes!
5. The SDK's we really want to release - at least the map making SDK's

Just a few of questions

1. Would you release an SDK for new aircraft making by third parties in the future
2. Will you keep the COD map scenario alive by releasing new flyable and AI aircraft e.g. Spitfire V, Typhoon, Fw190, Lancaster, Dornier 217 etc in the sequels
3. Will you release more working functions in the sequel FMB

DFLion

BRIGGBOY · #6 09-15-2012, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dflion

The positives.

1. Working hard on delivering a stable, working milestone for the sequel
2. We then return to now almost-final patch, cram as much as we can into it and make it our final COD patch
3. The next time it will be updated is when you install 'the sequel' over it.
4. Q&A. Will there be a complete readme - Yes!
5. The SDK's we really want to release - at least the map making SDK's

Just a few of questions

1. Would you release an SDK for new aircraft making by third parties in the future
2. Will you keep the COD map scenario alive by releasing new flyable and AI aircraft e.g. Spitfire V, Typhoon, Fw190, Lancaster, Dornier 217 etc in the sequels
3. Will you release more working functions in the sequel FMB

DFLion

dont get me wrong i am drooling like a rabid dog to fly those planes. but what i wanted and what i paid for is the bob.

Chivas · #7 09-15-2012, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dflion

The positives.

1. Working hard on delivering a stable, working milestone for the sequel
2. We then return to now almost-final patch, cram as much as we can into it and make it our final COD patch
3. The next time it will be updated is when you install 'the sequel' over it.
4. Q&A. Will there be a complete readme - Yes!
5. The SDK's we really want to release - at least the map making SDK's

Just a few of questions

1. Would you release an SDK for new aircraft making by third parties in the future
2. Will you keep the COD map scenario alive by releasing new flyable and AI aircraft e.g. Spitfire V, Typhoon, Fw190, Lancaster, Dornier 217 etc in the sequels
3. Will you release more working functions in the sequel FMB

DFLion

The COD map and aircraft will be in the Sequel. So any aircraft you find historical or otherwise in the Sequel or subsequent Sequels should be available for use by on the COD map. They probably won't be making any missions or campaigns for the COD map, but you can make them yourself, or download a ton of user made mission once things start rolling. I'm also hoping they will fix and add features to the FMB, and see no reason that wouldn't happen at somepoint. It will be interesting to see Luthier's anwsers to yours and other questions.

He111 · #8 09-15-2012, 04:46 AM

Thanks Luther, I always expected BOM would overlay CLOD, like most, pity no more CLOD aircraft though!

hopefully DSK will allow more development.

You give the impression that SLI is already up and running in CLOD ??? I hope I've misread that as I cannot see any 2nd GPU card activation.

CLOD is still a great BETA, I don't Know any other WWII air sim with the quality models like these.

And yes it is very strange that CLOD was not a good seller compared to the success of IL2 ?? I think it was just timing and quality control.

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BigC208 · #9 09-15-2012, 07:37 AM

Thanks for the heads up. Good to see that we get a final patch and further support thru the sequel. Me buying that sequel at release at full price will depend on two factors. 1: Did the final patch fix the most glaring problems. 2: Is the sequel a fixed product or another work in progress. All the stuff surrounding the release and slow progress of CloD has fixed me of my Il2 addiction. I can and will wait untill the sequel is in the the bargain bin if it's another bug ridden disaster. Release it when it's ready or I'll treat the sequal as a patch for CloD and pay accordingly. Keeping my fingers crossed and hoping the patch and sequel give me reasons to get addicted again!

ed-b · #10 09-15-2012, 07:50 AM

Just hooked back in after quite a long break to find the latest news from 1C.

Deep down I guess I realised ages ago that we were all being spun a line although, like you all, I hoped that we would at least end up with a reasonably solid product after our investment in both money and time. Sadly and predicatably, it wasn't to be. 1C are cutting their losses and hoping we will all buy the upgrade to fix what is now very, very clearly, a sub-standard product.

I feel sorry for everyone here. Reading back through the masses of posts over the last 12 months or so you get the feeling that this was probably always going to happen.

I wish 1C the very best of luck for the future. I'm sure their heart is in teh right place and the developers have had a real issues trying to balance the excessive maintenance needs of COD against teh development requirements for the new product.

Having said that, I have learned my lesson well. I won't be going for the new sim. I suspect it will suffer from a lot of teh same issues until they decide to follow the same exit strategy and release yet another sim. You can all see where this is going to end. For me, it's like a game of poker and you need to know when to fold.

I've folded and won't be hanging on for the carrot of a new sim. I wish you all well, and really hope that 1C do live up to their promises however, based on their track record, I'm not holding my breath.

I suspect that the orders for the new system will be greatly down and 1C will be forced in to the position of offering a significant discount to get everyone back on board. I hope that they do and I hope you all benefit from it.

Hope to see some of you again, flyinga sim that really works and one that we can really all enjoy out-of-the-box. I'm sure other manufacturers will be looking across and I suspect that some will see the potential niche and go for it. I'll certainly be looking out for something new but, having been so badly burned by 1C, will just wait and see what the initial purchasers feedback says before I part with any gard-earned cash.

Bye all and good luck to those that devide to stay with 1C.

Ed-B over and out.