Landing again hard with 4.11

[greybeard1]

I notice that increase for all aircrafts, Fw 190 has a particularly serious problem with energy wasting, which makes it behave more like a jet than a propeller plane and adds up to ground effect during landing: a minimal crosswind forces me to "float" for seconds yawed like a crab waiting for a touch-down that never happens, until a tiny error brings me off runway, crashing against one of the many objects "suitably" set along its sides (control towers, cars, parked planes, tanks, warehouses, hangars, etc).

I'm unable to land also with a bit of power: I must always cut-off on final, if I leave any amount of throttle that "floating" for sure brings me to overshoot runway. Maybe my descent angle is wrong? I tried approaching lower and slower, but this do not avoid ground effect and cause a stall (usually, one wing first) while floating over runway and, again, a crash. Really frustrating.

[IceFire]

The FW190 does tend to want to float a fair bit on landing and not loose energy. I tend to set up a banked turn prior to coming in for approach to kill as much speed as possible. I throttle it at 10% coming in, rads full open, wait for the speed to decline... once under about 220kph then I start dropping the full flaps and go nose up.

I still have trouble with the modified FW190 approach. All other planes in 4.10 are unaffected according to the "seat of my pants" landing approach. Just the FW series is a bit modified.

[Luno13]

Nothing changed in 4.11 in terms of ground effect. What you're experiencing there is what's called "Placebo"

But, to be more to the point, you're likely going too fast. I tend to make an approach with ~30% power with a collision course with the runway threshold. A few meters over the ground, I pull up, and reduce power simultaneously. The plane slows and stalls onto the runway, resulting in a 3-pointer each time.

[greybeard1]

If no changes were made to ground effect, air drag of most, if not all aircrafts must have been reduced. I think it's evident and noticed from beginning (please see: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3496013; where I mention "Significantly higher inertia").

Caspar?

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by greybeard1

If no changes were made to ground effect, air drag of most, if not all aircrafts must have been reduced. I think it's evident and noticed from beginning (please see: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3496013; where I mention "Significantly higher inertia").

Caspar?

I still think you're suffering from the placebo effect... it can be quite powerful.

[CWMV]

Sounds like your coming in too fast to me as well.

[K_Freddie]

Here's what you do.. (no mod track)
Note the speedo, the angle of approach for excellent runway view, the final flare before wheels touch - practice a bit on your fav plane.. it does work.

Excuse the slip - i have no rudder pedals

[Treetop64]

I've found that the FW190s can be a bit of a task to slow down sufficiently for approach and landing.

In the Bf109 I'll start dropping the gear and flaps on downwind at 250 knots, then drop the flaps further on the base leg at about 210 knots. I'm maintaining between 1700 and 1800 rpm on the throttle throughout (kommandogerat always stays on, I never touch the prop or mix settings individually in German machines so equipped). On final, flare at 200knots and reduce power, and touch down at around 150 knots. I do this consistently, and so long as there is no damage, landings are never a problem in the 109.

In the Focke Wolf however, I must pull all the way back on the power during the landing pattern, even with everything down fully, and mentally stay much further ahead of the aircraft. Landing is more difficult in the FW-190 since you really cant have any power applied while in the pattern if you want to be slow enough to land safely without forcing it, but with practice and consistency it can be done routinely.