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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 08-03-2012, 02:08 AM
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There are no haters here, haters would have gone long ago.

What we have here are more or less misguided lovers of CoD only.
Have to agree robtek, but why have so many been misguided.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:15 AM
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Have to agree robtek, but why have so many been misguided.
patience, simply those with more patience

if 1c/MG are still working on patches (albeit very slowly) and are also working on a sequel (which process has to address most CoD faults/complaints at the same time) then it means the ship is still going forward, and we have hope of a fixed/working product at the end of this process. at least somebody is doing SOMETHING to fix it and produce a working product. since they cant row faster then they currently are (with their limited team), constantly throwing beer cans and insults at them is rather counter productive.

one thing many people here seem to forget is that there are so many current problems in CoD exactly because it was such an ambitious project, and it is the depth and complexity of the game and gfx engine at the heart of the sim that is creating these multiple problems. personally i am happier that they overshot their mark with great ambition, rather then have them produce some dumbded down and limited product (which would have been easier to make).

in the other camp we have the same small clique of whiners and haters (and the odd new lost spotty faced tween who wonders in) who seem to believe that yelling loudly or constantly whining will magically solve things, and those same people are NOT seen providing constructive feedback in bug report threads or participation in reasoned debated to try and improve things.

the one aspect that blame can be correctly given to luthiers team, even if we know that they have limited resources and people, is that there isnt some hierarchy in priority bug fixes being addressed that deal with gameplay bugs that can be relatively easily fixed (and which would significantly reduce the volume of complaints), eg the "lack of COOP" issue, AI team commands, some specific control/instrument issues in some planes, lack of AI ground activity at airfields, allow some basic campaign function offline/online etc..
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:33 AM
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if 1c/MG are still working on patches (albeit very slowly) and are also working on a sequel (which process has to address most CoD faults/complaints at the same time) then it means the ship is still going forward, and we have hope of a fixed/working product at the end of this process. at least somebody is doing SOMETHING to fix it and produce a working product. since they cant row faster then they currently are (with their limited team), constantly throwing beer cans and insults at them is rather counter productive.

one thing many people here seem to forget is that there are so many current problems in CoD exactly because it was such an ambitious project, and it is the depth and complexity of the game and gfx engine at the heart of the sim that is creating these multiple problems. personally i am happier that they overshot their mark with great ambition, rather then have them produce some dumbded down and limited product (which would have been easier to make).
Well put +1
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:59 AM
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Will be Today ALPHA PATCH? Or update about the weather on Alaska?
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:13 AM
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Will be Today ALPHA PATCH? Or update about the weather on Alaska?
Well if you are after the latter then here you go.

Friday update for _YoYo_

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=al...&client=safari
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patience, simply those with more patience

if 1c/mg are still working on patches (albeit very slowly) and are also working on a sequel (which process has to address most cod faults/complaints at the same time) then it means the ship is still going forward, and we have hope of a fixed/working product at the end of this process. At least somebody is doing something to fix it and produce a working product. Since they cant row faster then they currently are (with their limited team), constantly throwing beer cans and insults at them is rather counter productive.

one thing many people here seem to forget is that there are so many current problems in cod exactly because it was such an ambitious project, and it is the depth and complexity of the game and gfx engine at the heart of the sim that is creating these multiple problems. Personally i am happier that they overshot their mark with great ambition, rather then have them produce some dumbded down and limited product (which would have been easier to make).

in the other camp we have the same small clique of whiners and haters (and the odd new lost spotty faced tween who wonders in) who seem to believe that yelling loudly or constantly whining will magically solve things, and those same people are not seen providing constructive feedback in bug report threads or participation in reasoned debated to try and improve things.

the one aspect that blame can be correctly given to luthiers team, even if we know that they have limited resources and people, is that there isnt some hierarchy in priority bug fixes being addressed that deal with gameplay bugs that can be relatively easily fixed (and which would significantly reduce the volume of complaints), eg the "lack of coop" issue, ai team commands, some specific control/instrument issues in some planes, lack of ai ground activity at airfields, allow some basic campaign function offline/online etc..
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well.. it's friday again..
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:37 AM
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well.. it's friday again..

Oh gawd. Not again.
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Oh gawd. Not again.
Oh Hell yeah!!!!

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Old 08-03-2012, 09:24 AM
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I hope he'll yeah cause if he'll no, I'll be very disappointed and yell, "Hell no" instead of "Hell yeah."
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