New Tracers

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Strike

I have fired 7,62x51 with the HK AG-3 at night and my experience was that from my point of view they appear as dots, rising a little at first then dropping past the convergence setting. (The AG-3 fires slightly upward to meet center of my sights at 200m range then drops off after that. Lethal range estimated at 4500m iirc ).

Just for the sake of it I used the HK G3 in the Swedish army a lot too - with tracers at night etc that looked just as you decribe them -tiny glowing dots popping away in the dark, no camera shutter "error lines".

But regarding the bullet path - the G3 fires the bullet in a path that passes the sight line at 30 meters when you use the 200 meter sight and then passes the top between 30 and 200 after it "falls" back to the sight line again at 200 meters. I think it is 17 cm above the sight line at 120 meters or so. May not sound that important but as the minimum sight distance of the G3 is 200 meters it may be good to know that if firing at targets at around 100 meters which is a "common range" you have to aim some 15 cm below the intended target or it will go high... If shooting at 500 meters with a G3 which is the maximum range of the iron sights the bullet is 90 cm over the sight line at 250 meters!

I remember that as we used the 200 meter setting and fired at targets 30 meters away to calibrate the sights... If it hits dead on at 30 meters it will do that at 200 meters too, and it's less walking up to patch the targets

[Strike]

Originally Posted by mazex

Just for the sake of it The G3 fires the bullet in a path that passes the sight line at 30 meters when you use the 200 meter sight and then passes the top between 30 and 200 after it "falls" back to the sight line again at 200 meters.

Ah hence the IIRC in my post :p. You are indeed right, I remember it now. We have too little time on the range in the airforce Since last time we've aquired the 416 and Mp7 and I havn't seen any of them yet :p (btw don't think about invading Norway, we may not be able to defend ourselves, but you will get killed on our horrible roads and drown in the fjords.)

[choctaw111]

Thanks for the replies fellas.
Strike, it is good to hear from you.
It has been too long.
You should hit me up on facebook.
I haven't checked out your photos in a while and I have been putting up some good ones lately.
I am still interested in seeing a video of the new tracers. I would love to see them for myself as I cannot get CloD to run well on my system. Time for a new rig...eventually.
I am finally getting a snowblower for my tractor (almost 5 grand). In Northern Maine it is necessary and worth the price. In SE Pennsylvania it wasn't so much of a priority.
Anyway, that is where the money is going right now.

[FS~Phat]

I just made this quick video in Adobe Premier Pro to show side by side the difference in the tracers.

IL2 COD Tracers 18301 beta vs 15950 official
Beta Left Panel Official Right Panel
Notice contrast is better in the newer beta (left) and tracer viewing distance is increased.
That and the dimmer gun flash effects is about the only difference I see.
(and the obvious missing clouds)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMTgxp1ylJo

[choctaw111]

Originally Posted by FS~Phat

I just made this quick video in Adobe Premier Pro to show side by side the difference in the tracers.

IL2 COD Tracers 18301 beta vs 15950 official
Beta Left Panel Official Right Panel
Notice contrast is better in the newer beta (left) and tracer viewing distance is increased.
That and the dimmer gun flash effects is about the only difference I see.
(and the obvious missing clouds)

Thank you very much for taking the time to do this.
The increased view distance for the tracers is nice to see.
I read that the bullets actually ricochet off the ground and water. What about bouncing off aircraft or ground targets? Are ricochets dependent on what the bullets hit and/or angle of impact or does it seem more random?

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Strike

(btw don't think about invading Norway, we may not be able to defend ourselves, but you will get killed on our horrible roads and drown in the fjords.)

Ahh, when I did my military service in 1989/1990 we actually invaded Norway A friend at another company where on an exercise in Jämtland in the winter and they where out on a tough exercise in the mountains along the Norwegian border with lots of snowfall etc... On the second day of the march they crossed a small road where a Norwegian border patrol jeep passed by (they where a company so quite many soldiers). The Norwegian kindly asked if the guns where loaded with live rounds? Yes they answered and the border patrol smiled and said: "As you are in Norway now I guess this could be called an invasion then?". They had taken the wrong valley in the snow storm and after getting some help with the map they humbly aborted the invasion and returned to Swedish soil