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Old 07-30-2012, 07:54 PM
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since everyone's health care is collectivized , that paves the way for govt to say...well since everyone pays for everyone else, the risky activities and habits that we have no longer affect the individual but now everyone in some way or another.... they will try and outlaw certain things...

next you will see people trying it limit salt or red meat intake, all because some people MIGHT get sick and incur health care costs, that since collectivized health care they can now argue effects everyone....


but yea who cares about protecting the rights of the individual....

its called a slippery slope....

enjoy living in your new collective...or commune...same thing really....
Only if it is placed in government institutions. Over here it is run by independent non profit organisations, whose simple goal is too keep tarifs at exactly the heights produced by costs. This organisations may react to public pressure (for example currently they run a huge surpolus and there is the argument going if to give the money back to the people by loweing tarifs or safeguard the money for later times when the age problem will hit Germany harder) but else are indepdendent from governmental bodies. Alternativly you may chose private health insurance to your liking.

The only condition by the state is that you have healthcare to begin with.

Btw, the US already has the western worlds most expensive health care system. Per capita the US spends much more then any other country as well. THere is not a lack of money in your system. It is simply extremly inefficient. That happens when private companies start to run a business where they can make money out of exactly that.

If you broke that system of yours you could have much better conditions for the same money or the same for much less. Instead it's become a black and white question, to be or not to be.
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