4.12 development update discussion and feedback

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by SPITACE

the p40s are ok in the sim its the bf109s that need new cockpits also the gun buttons on the spitfires need a repaint/redone

The P-40 cockpit isn't too bad... yes the Bf109 one is pretty old and fairly awful in comparison. Now on the exterior the Bf109 was lovingly crafted while the P-40E/M has a number of extremely obvious errors which it'll be great to have corrected.

You know the Bf109 cockpit isn't too bad considering it's one of the oldest in the game along with the IL-2, Yak, and MiG-3.

[Lagarto]

By the way, wasn't Kittyhawk MK IA (P-40E) fitted with underwing bomb racks? The current model doesn't have them.

[_1SMV_Gitano]

Originally Posted by Lagarto

By the way, wasn't Kittyhawk MK IA (P-40E) fitted with underwing bomb racks? The current model doesn't have them.

Many wartime pictures suggest that the use of small size bombs under the wings was widespread from the P-40F onwards. On the other hand, some references suggest that small bombs were used also by P-40s in the Phlippines campaign (1941) but it's not clear what version carried them as there were both P40B/Cs and P-40Es operating together (source: Bloody Shambles vol. 1 by C. Shores)

[Fighterace]

Will the new P-40 models have an improved DM?

[Macwan]

Yes, they will. At least the 3D, texture and collision boxes are much more detailled.

Cheers !

Macwan.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano

Many wartime pictures suggest that the use of small size bombs under the wings was widespread from the P-40F onwards. On the other hand, some references suggest that small bombs were used also by P-40s in the Phlippines campaign (1941) but it's not clear what version carried them as there were both P40B/Cs and P-40Es operating together (source: Bloody Shambles vol. 1 by C. Shores)

14th. Air Force P 40s were often armed with the bazooka type rocket launcher, as seen on the P47 in IL2.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by IceFire

The P-40 cockpit isn't too bad... yes the Bf109 one is pretty old and fairly awful in comparison.

I tend to disagree. While Bf109 do have awful texturing (old style), the 3D shape of the P-40 cockpits, especially the canopy frames, is really wrong.
So in summary, P-40 cockpits are wrong, while Bf109 ones are only ugly.

[Lagarto]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

So in summary, P-40 cockpits are wrong, while Bf109 ones are only ugly.

Many people won't notice when something is wrong, for lack of expertise, but they will surely notice when something is ugly

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

I tend to disagree. While Bf109 do have awful texturing (old style), the 3D shape of the P-40 cockpits, especially the canopy frames, is really wrong.
So in summary, P-40 cockpits are wrong, while Bf109 ones are only ugly.

That's quotable Both could use some tlc but super happy about the P-40 in general!

[Phil_K]

P-40 cockpit frames are wrong AND ugly.