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Old 07-11-2012, 10:07 AM
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A lot actually.
The Brits the Americans [and even the French-Canadians] were considered Westerners, Arian - it would have been pointless to get rid of them them, unless they were Jewish of course....


I'm not sure what makes you think the historical outcome turned the planet into a better place - we simply don't know.

Seriously? Are you saying that the fall of the 3rd Reich didn't have a positive effect? We do know that the 'historical outcome' had an immediate positive effect. The war ended, or is that a bad thing? It certainly turned the world into a better place in 1945.

You might think getting rid of the British and Americans was 'pointless', Hitler didn't. He intended to remove most of the male population in the UK.

On the wider point it seems that it's easy to criticise the UK for air raids.

Sadly that's what it took to get Germany to finally surrender, to blame the British for fighting back in the exact same way as they were attacked seems unfair.

In 1939 the German army was firing 30,000 shells a day into Warsaw. What's the difference between that and dropping bombs on a city? They also continuously attacked the city from the air. That set the tone for WW2.


In the grand scheme of things the German civilians got off a lot lighter than allied civilians. Hitler had no regard for his own people, the only way the air offensive could have been stopped was for Germany to surrender. It had become a machine designed to destroy Germany, nobody on the allied side was ever going to stop the air raids, they had the planes, they had the bombs... What else were they going to do? Sadly for the German people Hitler thought more about his ego than he did his people.

Don't think for a second that if Germany had the Bomber force that the allies had that they wouldn't have done the same thing.

Don't get me wrong, there was no glory in Dresden or Hamburg, but that was where the world was at. To judge it using today's standards, the whole bloody thing was wrong.

It was then though, not now. That's what it took, that's what happened. I hate to say 'they started it' because it sounds childish, but there's a fundamental truth to it to. For a nation to attack so many countries and for it to then try to make people feel guilty about attacking it back dosn't wash with me.

None of the sides involved showed much regard for civilian deaths, yet it's used as a stick to beat the British with, time and time again. Everybody was doing it.

If you don't want dead civilians then don't start wars, because in the age of high explosives it's always the civilians who die.
 


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