Euro 2012 (Football)

[pupo162]

Insuber is quite right. Tough Merkel is the first foreign head of state people seam to hate in my country since Bush...

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by pupo162

Insuber is quite right. Tough Merkel is the first foreign head of state people seam to hate in my country since Bush...

Yeah of course it's her fault that Italy (and other countries including Portugal) are in debt crisis and football is the best way to express this kind of feelings. I hate it when people mix up sport with politics.

I really enjoyed both last Italy matches and I wish them best of luck in the finals.

[Jatta Raso]

Originally Posted by Robo.

Yeah of course it's her fault that Italy (and other countries including Portugal) are in debt crisis and football is the best way to express this kind of feelings. I hate it when people mix up sport with politics.

I really enjoyed both last Italy matches and I wish them best of luck in the finals.

it's her fault to be a lame leader, total zero, a pawn of financial agencies, clueless to look beyond the economic factor of the situation and address the problem as a social crisis, and it's her job as she seems to be the head of Europe

Portugal, Spain, Ireland, Iceland, Greece, Hungary, Cyprus have already had or asked for external help, Italy and more will follow, meanwhile who's getting rich, who took benefice, and who's doing nothing to change the rules of this game?

is it every country's fault to need this kind of aid, or is there an economic and financial game with vicious rules and fixed results, that allows, exploits and rewards irresponsibility from politics and financial agents? how many more countries will have to enter this vicious cycle before people start to realize something's rotten from the root??

to just say that the countries are responsible for their situation, well, is much like saying the alcoholic is responsible for his health when someone keeps feeding him bottles; it's naive to portrait this economic situation in such simplistic ways as "you're broke, it's your fault'. not to exempt anyone from responsibilities, but frankly, at this point it's everyone's responsibility, as every country agreed in the present set of economic rules. and let's be honest, the few powerful countries are the ones that run the game and set the rules.

really, i recommend everyone 'inside job' from Charles Ferguson; it's honest, true, and above all, nails exactly the ones involved.
of course this has nothing to do with football; this requires a lot more in depth analysis and a great deal more conscience and information.

and by all means Merkel is no Helmut Kohl; he was an Europeist; the other is just a fat weasel worried about local elections.

now back to topic, i hope Italy beats Spain. and no, it's not political...

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Jatta Raso

well, is much like saying the alcoholic is responsible for his health when someone keeps feeding him bottles;

You can feed me bottles and I won't become an alcoholic. But I was gonna say whatever you think of her I don't mind at all, she doesn't play footbal for Germany.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Jatta Raso

it's her fault to be a lame leader, total zero, a pawn of financial agencies, clueless to look beyond the economic factor of the situation and address the problem as a social crisis, and it's her job as she seems to be the head of Europe

Portugal, Spain, Ireland, Iceland, Greece, Hungary, Cyprus have already had or asked for external help, Italy and more will follow, meanwhile who's getting rich, who took benefice, and who's doing nothing to change the rules of this game?

is it every country's fault to need this kind of aid, or is there an economic and financial game with vicious rules and fixed results, that allows, exploits and rewards irresponsibility from politics and financial agents? how many more countries will have to enter this vicious cycle before people start to realize something's rotten from the root??

to just say that the countries are responsible for their situation, well, is much like saying the alcoholic is responsible for his health when someone keeps feeding him bottles; it's naive to portrait this economic situation in such simplistic ways as "you're broke, it's your fault'. not to exempt anyone from responsibilities, but frankly, at this point it's everyone's responsibility, as every country agreed in the present set of economic rules. and let's be honest, the few powerful countries are the ones that run the game and set the rules.

really, i recommend everyone 'inside job' from Charles Ferguson; it's honest, true, and above all, nails exactly the ones involved.
of course this has nothing to do with football; this requires a lot more in depth analysis and a great deal more conscience and information.

and by all means Merkel is no Helmut Kohl; he was an Europeist; the other is just a fat weasel worried about local elections.

now back to topic, i hope Italy beats Spain. and no, it's not political...

This was so far a very nice thread. If you have to say something, please do it in another one. You certainly will get responses.

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by Robo.

Yeah of course it's her fault that Italy (and other countries including Portugal) are in debt crisis and football is the best way to express this kind of feelings. I hate it when people mix up sport with politics.

+1, you are fully correct


and today we come to the end of our competition

Spain vs Italy...

Place your bets! im going for spain

ESPAAAAAAANAAAAAAAAAAAA