Friday Official Update, June 22, 2012

[ATAG_Dutch]

Try 3000ft, looking south down the Volga, over the centre of the city of.......Volgograd.

Which used to be called.......................

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Try 3000ft, looking south down the Volga, over the centre of the city of.......Volgograd.

Which used to be called.......................

Hmmm! That would tie in with the operational testing of the LA-5 in September 42'. I could live with that!

[ATAG_Dutch]

Yup. Imagine a 'combined ops' sim at this location!

Of course, there may be multiple maps in the sequel, maybe Leningrad, Stalingrad and Moscow........

Beginning to warm to this idea.

[zapatista]

Battle of Kursk ?

there is no indication from 1c that any ground vehicles will be realistic enough to create a worth while tank sim anytime soon

nice idea for about 5 yrs down the road maybe

[SiThSpAwN]

Originally Posted by zapatista

Battle of Kursk ?

there is no indication from 1c that any ground vehicles will be realistic enough to create a worth while tank sim anytime soon

nice idea for about 5 yrs down the road maybe

Their goal may not be a tank sim, but something like DCS Combined Arms where vehicles arent hardcore simmed but are controllable enough to have a more dynamic battlefield. The focus of any IL2 should be the quality of the aircraft and their FM, the addition of vehicles while cool, should only be as added value to the aircraft and battlefield...

Of course this is only guessing...

[Feathered_IV]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Try 3000ft, looking south down the Volga, over the centre of the city of.......Volgograd.

Which used to be called.......................

That would be something Ive wanted to see for a long time. A detailed Stalingrad map. If that's what it is, let's hope they have their objects by then, so that not just high end users can fly over it.

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

That would be something Ive wanted to see for a long time. A detailed Stalingrad map. If that's what it is, let's hope they have their objects by then, so that not just high end users can fly over it.

To be honest I don't think that Stalingrad is really a very good choice of battle for what is primarily still a flight-sim. That battle was a real slug-fest: advances measured in yards, mainly infantry combat with both sides close together and often indistinguishable; battles inside factories, rubbled buildings. There won't be much to see from the air. (and if the current engine can't even generate a London bus to bring even a semblance of life to a very sterile London, how are they going to make piles of rubble in Stalingrad look interesting?)

Great choice for something like Red Orchestra but not a flight-sim. Kursk would be a much better idea, though that may be pushing the time-line for the first Eastern Front instalment too far.

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On B6's latest posts, there does seem to be an increasing air of gloom underneath it all. Can be easy to read too much into the often cryptic statements but it is about time that someone from this company got a grip and realised that they don't need any more panic caused by poor or misleading communication.

Originally Posted by BlackSix

It's the good advice, thanks, but you don't know about our inner situation and I can't say about it also. We will make that we can.

So when is the BIG announcement going to come? Still slated for June or delayed?

The story has changed so completely in the last months, first with the confirmed shift of focus from COD to BOM, then the MMO announcement which cast a big question mark over previously stated plans.

I think we need and deserve some clarification and comment on all this.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Ken me old mate. The same was true of old IL2. But there was a Stalingrad Scenario and a Leningrad Scenario.

But don't get me wrong, there's no-one here who wants a decent Battle of Britain sim more than me. But these other theatres are what we all cut our teeth on. Nothing's changed there.

P.S. It's not the bloody BoM!!! I just spent hours of my day demonstrating this!!

[kendo65]

Yeah, I know there's a Stalingrad map in old il-2. But the city itself was a tiny part. My main point was about people expecting Red Orchestra in a flight-sim complete with intense battles going on in the city streets. Don't think it'll happen that way - and even if it does you won't see it from 3000ft up in a Ju88. You're more likely to get tasked to strafe a supply convoy 5 miles behind the lines.

And feel free to mentally substitute BOM with 'sequel' or whatever floats your boat.
(though somebody complained about 'sequel' a few months back as well...)

Good matching of the google earth shot to the screenie though

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Good matching of the google earth shot to the screenie though

Well thanks Kendo me ole mucker! I thought so, too!