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Old 06-25-2012, 01:40 PM
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Agree completely. It can only get worse too. The week the Euro's started the EPL announced they have just sold their TV rights for the next three years for £3.02billion!!! The previous deal was worth £1.8billion.
What is the problem? That is a lot of money. If the EPL spends only a tiny fraction of that money it would be more then enough to jump start a professional training program?
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Old 06-25-2012, 03:47 PM
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What is the problem? That is a lot of money. If the EPL spends only a tiny fraction of that money it would be more then enough to jump start a professional training program?

They won't. It's cheaper to bring in foreign players who are way ahead in terms of ability. Why would an Arab or Russian oligarch care about investing in kids to make great players in 15 years time when he can buy now?
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Old 06-25-2012, 03:51 PM
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I'm out, sorry for the OT.
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Old 06-25-2012, 04:07 PM
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hey i understand what Manu said, we agree in the end maybe not in the means, i don't wanna sound like a preacher or something.


anyway i'm hopping we get to score first and make Spain run after the result, making them expose their defense;

Portugal strengths: speed, counter attack, flexible midfield and solid defense, 2 outstanding wingers
Portugal weakness: lacks solid center forward, somewhat wait and see attitude, individualism of some players

Spain strengths: possession, possession, possession; tremendous midfield when it comes to getting the ball and passing
Spain weakness: rear defense positioning, lack of vertical play when needed, sacrifice tactics for names
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Old 06-25-2012, 05:36 PM
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They won't. It's cheaper to bring in foreign players who are way ahead in terms of ability. Why would an Arab or Russian oligarch care about investing in kids to make great players in 15 years time when he can buy now?
Because bringing in gifted players from completly different game cultural backgrounds makes great prima donnas, but not a team that trains and plays in a manner tought from childhood on to make coherent tactics and strategies possible?

I dunno, that must be obvious to everybody watching international football tournaments.

Maybe I am naive here, but why don't you guys just found some new football clubs, like in the old days, and simply ignore the EPL? Obviousy there is not much connection to the fans in this league anymore anyways? Just wondering....
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Old 06-25-2012, 06:20 PM
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no one can say Italy play italian's style,now we are far more like spain

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great game who say it was boring must had watched some other game.

Now Germany,the best team of Euro 2012,they have 2 days of rest more than us and they are far superior in attack.If we lose will not be a scandal,but if we are very lucky we can hope,btw germany vs italy were always great matches.
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Because bringing in gifted players from completly different game cultural backgrounds makes great prima donnas, but not a team that trains and plays in a manner tought from childhood on to make coherent tactics and strategies possible?

I dunno, that must be obvious to everybody watching international football tournaments.

Maybe I am naive here, but why don't you guys just found some new football clubs, like in the old days, and simply ignore the EPL? Obviousy there is not much connection to the fans in this league anymore anyways? Just wondering....
and watch as those talented kids are cherry picked by over seas teams? bringing in players means that the epl has been graced by the likes of bergkamp, zola, aguero... who on earth wouldn't want to watch that week in week out? i stopped giving a toss about the england team a long time ago.
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bringing in players means that the epl has been graced by the likes of bergkamp, zola, aguero... who on earth wouldn't want to watch that week in week out?
Completely true. This isn't a little englander rant it's just that the EPL is now the league the world watches and for very good reason. However, for our national team the economics of the EPL dictate a trip up that creek sans paddle!
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Completely true. This isn't a little englander rant it's just that the EPL is now the league the world watches and for very good reason. However, for our national team the economics of the EPL dictate a trip up that creek sans paddle!
the new stipulation that each squad must have so many home grown players is an attempt to reverse/avoid the situation at l'arsenal, so it's a step in the right direction. i've always maintained that having the cream of the world's footballing talent, or a portion of it at any rate, is vital for the improvement and development of our young players - you play with quality you learn something from them. however there is also the issue that the coaches in this country place too much emphasis on a certain style of football - a particularly graceless one at that - and certain attributes for players. messi for one would've been discarded as being too small, whereas barca saw the ability and gave him hgh to try and make him less tiny.
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the new stipulation that each squad must have so many home grown players is an attempt to reverse/avoid the situation at l'arsenal, so it's a step in the right direction. i've always maintained that having the cream of the world's footballing talent, or a portion of it at any rate, is vital for the improvement and development of our young players - you play with quality you learn something from them. however there is also the issue that the coaches in this country place too much emphasis on a certain style of football - a particularly graceless one at that - and certain attributes for players. messi for one would've been discarded as being too small, whereas barca saw the ability and gave him hgh to try and make him less tiny.
That is kinda contradictionary in regards to what Osprey said. If there is not a propper youth training scheme because all the money goes to foreign players, what youth is supposed to learn from them?
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