Need help with Logitech G940 joystick (auto-center spring)

[ATAG_Dutch]

Hello mate. I had this exact problem when my stick was new. It felt so stiff no matter what I did I was thinking it was faulty, and when it did move it was notchy and felt just awful.

I uninstalled all the software, and as a precaution also uninstalled the previous stick's software (a 3Dpro). When I re-installed the G940 software the problem had gone, although it sometimes re-occurs if I alt/tab out of the game and back in again. The good news is that a swift tug on the elevators frees it up again.

Try uninstalling all stick software on your pc, re-install the logitech stuff, update the firmware and you should be good to go.

[AbortedMan]

Great, thanks for the info fellas. Sorry if I was short with ya pupo, I was cranky from stayin up all night screwing with that joystick and hadn't gone to bed yet.

I didn't realize 1946 didn't have the "control surface" force feedback support. That actually helps a ton and may be the reason I was seeing little variance between my experimental changes...I started using 1946 to test for the last half of the night, expecting the force feedback speed characteristics exactly as you described...but there is a "spring.ffe" file in 1946, which lead me to believe there was. Are you absolutely sure flight control surface feedback is not supported?

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by AbortedMan

Great, thanks for the info fellas. Sorry if I was short with ya pupo, I was cranky from stayin up all night screwing with that joystick and hadn't gone to bed yet.

I didn't realize 1946 didn't have the "control surface" force feedback support. That actually helps a ton and may be the reason I was seeing little variance between my experimental changes...I started using 1946 to test for the last half of the night, expecting the force feedback speed characteristics exactly as you described...but there is a "spring.ffe" file in 1946, which lead me to believe there was. Are you absolutely sure flight control surface feedback is not supported?

well ti is supported but in a totally different manner. oh and you didnt go wrong with me,both my responses soudned a tad patronizing, im used to explain this stuff to people who are total noobies. Back on topic, in 1946 i have to have center sprign on or i dont really fill any force, in COD center spring is off, and all the force i feel is the joystick FF. Also, it doenst have some off the more complex effects COD has ( the spin effect, the loss of wings, the on ground vs airbourne etc), simply saying FF in 1946 is pretty much just vibration, COD, altough not perfect its the best i've ever tried and the most similar to RL.

my settings are straight forwards:

100
100
100
cs - OFF.

try them, i would rase those values since i feel the stick too light still, but then it becomes unflyable if i shoot the guns.

[AbortedMan]

So I finally got everything working after another frustrating couple of hours fiddling with settings.

Il2 1946 DOES model flight control surfaces into force feedback. It took a complete uninstall/reinstall of the Logitech Profiler software and hardware drivers, and a calibration clearing utility to finally get what I wanted: little to no centering with strong FFB effects when applicable. Also, I found zero results when screwing around with the global hardware settings, only setting a profile to be PERSISTENT in the software then going to edit>specific game settings and configure my stuff there.

Very glad all that is over. Thanks for the help fellas.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by AbortedMan

So I finally got everything working.

Good to know. Now you can start to enjoy what is a really good stick setup.

[AbortedMan]

Running into some strange bugs here...

It feels like the force feedback is somehow overloading the stick, as in, I'll be banking and on the brink of a stall, so the stick will be shaking, and fire my guns (which adds guns shake) and the force feedback just "breaks" and goes limp. Meanwhile, my ingame flightstick goes max right and max forward as if it was EXTREMELY miscalibrated, so my aircraft goes careening into a downward spiral. Usually a couple cycles of the stick in full circles at its limits resets it, but by then I've lost my target and I'm in a dive.

This happens after about 45 min to one hour after playing, I'm wondering if it's an issue of overheating or a case of just a bad stick out of the box.

[ATAG_Dutch]

That sounds weird, but of course if you did actually stall, there would be minimum FFB (a floppy stick) from the control surfaces until you'd built up more airspeed. Sorry if this is obvious.

I get a floppy stick when starting the 'free flight' quick missions, which takes a few violent manoevres to kick it in.

I've had no overheating problems with my stick in over a year of much use. I've got some 761 hours in on Cliffs alone, plus FSX, IL2, RoF and DCS A-10.
In spite of my Northern English location, the wife has the heating on pretty constantly, so it's not like I'm in a cold environment!

The only thing I would suggest is to set everything on default settings, in both global device and individual game settings, disable centring spring both globally and in game settings also and uncheck 'persistent profile' and check 'apply profiles to games automatically'.

Having said that, everyone has a different preference, but all of my settings are at 75%, for all games and for the global device settings, with centre spring unchecked in all cases.

I don't use the profiler at all, and set everything up in the game control menus.

Recalibrating the stick from scratch may help too.

That's all I can think of for now.

[4brkfast]

I have the exact same issue as you do Aborted.

Whether it's the hardware, the software or the game I'm uncertain, however, the profiler seems to function in other games. Ie, arma, Elite Dangerous.

But ever since I downloaded Il-2 and (stupidly) fiddled with some settings in Il-2's force feedback settings my G940 has not functioned properly since. The global device settings no longer change the force feedback settings.

This joystick setup is no longer supported by logitech, this could be one of the reasons why of course. I have the exact same issue, I hit a button or move the joystick and the force feedback motors start to go nutty(the shaking as described).

Whether it was a coincidence or not, the G940 does not function properly in Il-2 BoS. But I have a feeling that it may be the hardware itself, however, when I start a game(elite dangerous or something else) through the profiler it uses the adjusted settings, but the settings changing are no longer retroactive like they were before Il-2's installation.

Perhaps I should look into the Il-2 folder or re-install the game, it could be a combination of several things, either way I am considering buying a cheap joystick, after all, the throttle works fine. I partly wish I had kept my X52, but either way, this G940 'was' the best setup I have ever had, before it started malfunctioning.

Either way it's an unfortunate shame that Logitech no longer supports their extremely popular hardware, I would imagine this is the main reason why it does not function properly.