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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-15-2012, 09:39 PM
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Yous guys gotta remember there's probably a requirement from Ubisoft to maintain a compatibility with the box-listed systems. Ubisoft and 1C probably have a contract somewhere that details a lot of money moving around, along with a standard that must be kept compliant. Although it sounds silly to us, a work order/contract is a work order/contract, and must be fulfilled to maintain a proper business relationship...especially with a new title looming in the distance.

That being said, I agree it was a poor business choice to postpone the alpha/beta (whatever this upcoming patch is) as for legal/professional purposes, these patches are strictly for testing. In no way shape or form is the consumer, DX9 user or otherwise, forced to use these patches for any aspect of gameplay. Hell, any consumer wouldn't even know about a patch unless they went out and sought it themselves...and truthfully, anyone that is not into PC gaming enough to NOT keep up with current hardware probably isn't the type that is perusing developer forums waiting for alpha/beta patches and probably doesn't even know there is a public development cycle.

Even if they did know and attempt to participate in betas, the law is on 1C's side against any lawsuits or whatever simply because this participation is volunteer only. Common sense dictates 1C should have utilized that fact and released a patch today, but obviously there is more going on behind the scenes.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:47 PM
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:02 PM
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For me it's obvious. All this dx9 talking from 1c is for one reason, to buy time.
They seem to have so big problems they can't admit.
Just my personal opinion.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:04 PM
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For me it's obvious. All this dx9 talking from 1c is for one reason, to buy time.
They seem to have so big problems they can't admit.
Just my personal opinion.
+1 Spot on. Most will refuse to believe it though.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:23 PM
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The back of the DVD box does say DX 9.

However it also says "play it on Ubi.com" and "This game is protected by digital rights management TAGES".

I have not heard any lawsuits about those missing items.

I have not seen any other retail game that had such a hard time with DX9.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:34 PM
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For me it's obvious. All this dx9 talking from 1c is for one reason, to buy time.
They seem to have so big problems they can't admit.
Just my personal opinion.
Looks like the one reason. From more than half a year not official patch just only promises and one alpha.
How many programmers of 1C works for improve of CoD? 1 for half a working day?

Not very funny....
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DX9 support is critical for the MMO.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:49 PM
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DX9 support is critical for the MMO.
Thx, so here is the reason - first step for Battle of Moscow? Forget about CoD users?
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Old 06-16-2012, 12:04 AM
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you know, this will no doubt get me a vacation from the forum, but why don't you lot that can do nothing but whine and moan and never get the point just bugger off.

Seriously.

You are never going to be happy with the sim, no matter how good it may get. Oleg could come back tomorrow, give all of you a gold plated freaking hotas setup of your choice, with a version of the sim that allowed your favorite plane to obliterate all comers, and give 1000+ fps with graphics set to mega uber beyond comprehension that would run on an apple ii, and you still would not be happy.

So why not go away and never come back?

You will be happier, and so will the rest of us.

qft!

Could we please have a locked official announcment\development update thread and people who wish can then vent their spleen elsewhere.

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Old 06-16-2012, 12:06 AM
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but release the patch without it, most of the user aren't DX9ers, that part of the players can keep waiting for a bit more, but is unfair keep up us all waiting for and outdated tech for a few that doesn't want to update systems
Since the final patch will have DX9 support, it also has to be beta tested. So, why make two different patches, instead of making one for both DX versions and then using the spare time to fix other things: radio comms, AI, FMs, etc?

I really do want that patch and i hope they'll give the bombers some love now that we have a thread collecting bug reports about them, but i prefer to get a proper patch instead of band-aid fixes.

What i also don't get is how the same "it says so on the box so i want acceptable FPS" crowd is now going around telling people that "it doesn't matter what it says on the box". Pure hilarity.

In truth, if we decide the system requirements on the box don't mean anything, then they should not bother with fixing anything at all...not only DX9, but anything else. It says such and such card and above on the box, doesn't it? That includes all the DX10 and DX11 cards, right?

However, we want them to fix it. And that means delivering everything of what was advertised, including DX9 support.

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Dear Moderators,

Can we have a separate thread where people can ask why they are supporting DX9 and where we can continue to reply each time?

Thanks

I'm seriously contemplating it to be honest. There's a bunch of encouraging stuff in this update and all we get again is focusing on the ONE thing that is not as likeable.

It's not completely off-topic yet because DX9 is mentioned in the update. However, if it moves to detailed specifications on DX versions and DX user statistics, i'm definitely creating a new thread and moving all related posts there. I'll check again tomorrow and see how things are going in that regard.

Also, if certain people don't calm down soon, expect the post to be temporarily locked for clean-up and removal of posts that only serve the purpose of deliberately irritating each other.

This is not everyone's personal "let me vent my frustrations thread". If anybody wants such a thread create one in the pilot's lounge and knock your socks off (all can have their say as long as it's respectful to others and in the appropriate forum section), but don't drag this one through the mud or i'll do the same to your posting privileges. I think i'm making this as clear as can be.
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