Diesel exhausts do cause cancer, says WHO

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by beepee

well ace dont you think this a better discussion -than say the latest f,ms of spit an 109 thats getting a bit long in the tooth now after 15 months(haha!)

Well at least this is a flight sim forum..

So one would expect people to post on flight sim 'things'..

And in doing so, expect, or at least hope to have some sort of impact on flight sim 'things'

But anything beyond that is.. well.. hate to say it but silly!

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

What ever gets you to sleep at night.. Eitherway, I just find it funny how you and yours have to resort to such tatics with anyone that disagrees with you.. Would be funny if it wasnt so sad.. Too bad too because it is an interesting topic.

When you mean 'tactics' you must mean knowledge.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Osprey

When you mean 'tactics' you must mean knowledge.

If believing that makes you feel better about yourself..

More power to you!

No skin off my back..

All I ask is that in the future, if you really want to carry on a conversation with someone..

You would do well to set your troll like tendency aside..

Where you present the person your talking to with only two options to choose from (brainwashed or idiot)..

And than sit back and act surprised or worse yet try to play the part of the victim when said person calls you on your troll like actions.

Because your not fooling anyone here

Just a thought!

[Osprey]

Let's just recap. You post a picture deriding future technology and people that want to move forward with it calling them names. When you get called something back you flip out and play victim?

Why don't you present us with at least something which shows that you understand the topic you are debunking and maybe then we might take you seriously because tbh you seem to be just completely obtuse on this. How else can one answer you? Better still, since you don't want to have these new technologies (which aren't new btw) rammed down your throat then please take the time to write to Ford, Honda, Toyota etc etc and let them know that they are wasting their time and money. You'll save millions for us all.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Let's just recap.

Ok Lets

Originally Posted by Osprey

You post a picture deriding future technology and people that want to move forward with it calling them names.

So let me see if I understand you correctly..

When I replied to Bewolf (not you) comment about improving technology..

By posting a picture of a guy pushing an alternative fuel vehical up a hill..

With the note that the first step would be to correct the lib definition of progress..

You consider that name calling?

Nice try..

But your still not fooling anyone

Originally Posted by Osprey

When you get called something back you flip out and play victim?

Nope, I never tried to play the part of the victim.. I simply pointed out how people like you have to resort to calling people names (brainwashed or idiot) when someone does not agree with you..

So you get a gold star for 'spin' effort

But no sale!

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Agreed 100%

And if everyone realized that..

Than there would be no one here getting upset..

Yet there are those who do

Which leads me to belive they actually 'belive' they are 'doing' more than exchanging opinions in a good or competitive spirit!

Takes a while to see though people on the internet without a way to watch their expressions and gestics in person. Hell, it took me a while, hehe.

If ever

It is inevitable. Natural ressources are not infinite. "When" is debateable, the eventuality is not.
And as said before, combustion engines are way too ineffective. Two thirds of the energy in petrol is completly wasted. Thrown away for nothing.

If someone does, be sure the market will than make the move..

Where as the government forcing the move only makes for false fixes

That is a too dogmatic approach to market rules and too short sighted.
The market only reacts when under pressure and the development takes years, if not decades. We are in an ecomic downturn and still prices as oil are high as hardly ever before. Imagine what happens when the global demand rises again? And that situation won't get better anymore, as oil is ever harder to come by, and as such ever more expensive as well. When the day comes you better already have an alternative handy instead of only starting development then.

Btw, a curious tidbit, Gulf (=oil exporting) nations are heavly investing in renewables.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

It is inevitable. Natural ressources are not infinite

Well not limiting myself ot natural ressources..

As I noted earlier, they are doing some neat stuff with algae to produce diesel..

If they can make that process work with salt water.. than the we won't have to worry for a very long time..

If it it limited to fresh water, well than it is a nogo from the getgo.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Well not limiting myself ot natural ressources..

As I noted earlier, they are doing some neat stuff with algae to produce diesel..

If they can make that process work with salt water.. than the we won't have to worry for a very long time..

If it it limited to fresh water, well than it is a nogo from the getgo.

Nothing against investments in Diesel producing algae, can't hurt to have more "alternatives", though if you are pro investements in this department, then why not in others as well? Especially if they are more energy efficient and thus cheaper in the long run?

[Osprey]

People can read the thread if they want to. I consider calling people 'soc lib greenies' a name, but you appear to be struggling with all of your definitions today.

You are being just like Crumpp here, writhing for each reply and you don't even realise it. I'm not wasting my time any further, regardless of your knowledge of other topics when it comes to this one it's clear to me that you are just ignorant and a bit of a luddite. It's a shame because you are going to get awfully upset one whatever happens - that is either when you have to pay way more for your fuel or that the World fills up with alternative powered vehicles. What bad luck.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Osprey

People can read the thread if they want to. I consider calling people 'soc lib greenies' a name, but you appear to be struggling with all of your definitions today.

So what part of me calling you a 'soc lib greenies' AFTER you said I was either BRAINWASHED or an IDIOT do you NOT understand?

Again, gold star for spin effort

But no sale