could relativity proof have been falsified?

[Robert]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Like that hasn't been said before, OK lets make an example, it seems it bothers you that I am engaging with raaaid in this way, despite the fact it is my right to engage in any way I choose on an open forum, it's down to moderation to police it, I have made it clear many times I think raaaid is a troll and no matter how many times he admits it with the clause of being a friendly troll he is still a troll seeking attention, I find raaaid as annoying as you find me complaining about him annoying, everyone has the right to reply or ignore.

No. It's personal, and that's not okay. If we weren't allowed to have members of the forum banned for alternative, oftentimes vitriolic opinions and constant whining toward this game, then I see no reason to go off on raaaid.

I mentioned it yesterday, and I'll do it again today because a forum moderator consistently tells us if there is a problem with another poster - put him on ignore (complete with instructions on how to use it). I see no viable excuse for the hunting down raaid just to express your personal feelings of how he annoys you. The answer is obvious- IGNORE him.

Barring your unwillingness to ignore him, I'll ask the moderators to ban you. He's not bothering anyone, and unless it's a problem with bandwidth, breaking rules, or abusing other members, he's not bothering anyone who doesn't want to be bothered. This is an off topic forum. In raaaid's case sometimes they are as off topic as one can get, but they're harmless.

It's really that easy bongo. Nothing personal, and absolutely no animosity is directed toward you, bongo. I just don't get what appears to be a crusade.

[bongodriver]

I just don't get what appears to be a crusade.

I explained it several times, I think raaaid is an attention seeking troll, out of any of the regular raaaid bashers I tend to be one that at least gives a reasoned argument why I'd like him to politely move on instead of just demanding his banning.

Anyway, point noted and ignore list it is, if he really can keep it on one thread then great.

[fruitbat]

I've just noticed this thread.

I haven't read any of raaaids posts as he is on my ignore list, and has been for months.

Its a simple solution, I just wish the ignore feature would hide threads started by people on your ignore list, and not just posts.

[WTE_Galway]

If you allow totally unscientific mumbo jumbo from creationists and climate change deniers, how can you then justify banning Raaaid? There is very little difference.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

I explained it several times, I think raaaid is an attention seeking troll, out of any of the regular raaaid bashers I tend to be one that at least gives a reasoned argument why I'd like him to politely move on instead of just demanding his banning.

Anyway, point noted and ignore list it is, if he really can keep it on one thread then great.

No. raaaid has medical issues, and he's stated some of them in the past. While those may drive what seems like attention seeking, it is not. I don't know his specifics, but my brother is schizophrenic and I recognize many many many of the same traits of logic and theorizing. That may even be why I feel the need to back raaaid. I do find him a likable guy when not provoked.

EDIT: I know he takes his licks from others here and elsewhere too. Again. Nothing personal, bongo.

[bongodriver]

No. raaaid has medical issues, and he's stated some of them in the past.

I think it's a smokescreen.

While those may drive what seems like attention seeking, it is not

I wish I could believe it.

I don't know his specifics, but my brother is schizophrenic and I recognize many many many of the same traits of logic and theorizing

I had an aunt with the same condition, a well researched and cunning troll could emulate all of that behaviour or as I believe make it a trademark.

That may even be why I feel the need to back raaaid. I do find him a likable guy when not provoked.

The flip side of the coin, either believe him and back him or not believe him and confront him.

EDIT: I know he takes his licks from others here and elsewhere too. Again. Nothing personal, bongo.

No worries, I believe you at least.

[raaaid]

oh so after all you believe im not crazy, well my clinical diagnose its im sane though im having antipsicotics(and i think those frag my head the most, hell everymonth when i get the shot i make the crazier threads)

well what makes me crazy is that in the 12 century i would belive in earth translation while everybody believed the stars were candles in a dome

today its the opposite

i had two nervous breakdowns as heartman

but what do you expect after having watched on tv an ufo attack on a plane in an aerial exhibition or that chicken meat gets his genetic pairs of proteins from millions to just two so the origin of the meat cant be determined

of course im crazy but my resentfull and what i aired as its posible to me is that for some unknown reason i was lead crazy

bongo what you percieve in a way its an excrazy guy

someone who yesterday was scared of certain things and now make him laugh

edit:

also bongo what doesnt fit to you is like when you find a gay guy who is not a butterfly like an ophiolite

im a totally wacky guy who still can fit perfectly in society and is in his perfect right TO THINK WHATEVER HE WANTS

you want me to cut out the crab?

prove me wrong

a good argument:

atmospheric lensing causes raimbow effect or chromatic aberration while gravitational lensing doesnt

link with fact:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/etwum62yqqhx8e6d/

Light refraction by the Sun's atmosphere is calculated.As detected from the Earth, the refraction can deflect a light ray emitted from the Sun's limb by 13" or a starlight ray grazing the solar limb by 26", an effect 15 times larger than the gravitational deflection.

edit:

also bongo you should know in 10 years i never was caught lying, i was caught cheating amerikas army though

am i very smart or telling the truth?

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Robert

No. raaaid has medical issues, and he's stated some of them in the past. While those may drive what seems like attention seeking, it is not. I don't know his specifics, but my brother is schizophrenic and I recognize many many many of the same traits of logic and theorizing. That may even be why I feel the need to back raaaid. I do find him a likable guy when not provoked.

EDIT: I know he takes his licks from others here and elsewhere too. Again. Nothing personal, bongo.

Robert, if he really had medical issues (which seem to be there and then they're gone, according to his mood), he shouldn't be here, not because of his condition mind you, but simply cos this is not a healthy place to be. Schizophrenics shouldn't even be allowed near the internet.

If he doesn't, he's just a troll.

I think the truth is in the middle, as he admitted himself to be a "good" troll (if there was something as such). As fruitbat said, the ignore feature seems to work only on posts, not on threads started by members, and god knows if raaaid started more useless topics than anybody else.

The situation is so ludicrous that it's starting to get surreal. He's been banned for trolling lately, and he's relentlessly back at it.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Robert, if he really had medical issues (which seem to be there and then they're gone, according to his mood), he shouldn't be here, not because of his condition mind you, but simply cos this is not a healthy place to be. Schizophrenics shouldn't even be allowed near the internet.

If he doesn't, he's just a troll.

I think the truth is in the middle, as he admitted himself to be a "good" troll (if there was something as such). As fruitbat said, the ignore feature seems to work only on posts, not on threads started by members, and god knows if raaaid started more useless topics than anybody else.

The situation is so ludicrous that it's starting to get surreal. He's been banned for trolling lately, and he's relentlessly back at it.

Understood, and if he truly is a troll then moderators are the ones to cure the problem. Right? Regarding topics created by members you are ignoring? Topics clearly state who the author is - easy enough to not enter. Capice?

Other than that, I don't think I have anything more substantive to say regarding this, and don't really need to drag this out any more than it already is.

[raaaid]

it says atmospheric lensing its 15 times bigger than gravitational lensing, how could eisntein have accounted for this, i dont say relativity is wrong i say einstein proof its invalid since he had no way to account for sun atmospheric lensin

dont you think my being fourth hit on relativity+ sun+ atmosphere proves i have original ideas which would be a shame censoring for being quite unique?

my discovery:

rounded lenses as planets atmosphere hardly cause any raimbow effect only triangular lenses do

the kind of refraction depends weather the lens is poligonal or rounded