Man Made Global Warming

[Bewolf]

This thread is more surreal then watching Glenn Beck.

The amound of conspiracy attributed to numerous orgnaisations and proffessions is worse then kennedy, moon landing and Area 51 combined.

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by jimson8

Where has it ever worked and why do some still think that it can?

given the current system and circumstances any alternative ideology can be attractive.

when edison suffered so many failed attempts at making lightbulbs, should he have given up because of them?

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

Talking to climate change advocates long enough and the conversation goes from climate change to wealth inequity to income redistribution using climate change and the vehicle to achieve this change.

It's all spelled out in dozens of radicals books.

Look all around the world as all the civilizations that came and went before ours.

Ours too will meet the same fate as all the rest before ours and there isn't anything we can do collectively or alone.

quite often it starts at it being an unwarranted eco-tax, bringing the whole political shebang into it. in no small part due to it largely being a right wing sentiment that anything that attempts to curtail pollution or perceived causes of climate change is "bad for business". quite how these changes would not require effort and therefore provide employment is something i have yet to see explained.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Tell that to someone in Greece at the moment, or one of the 50% of Spanish youth who find themselves without jobs, or the thousands in Ireland who have had to emigrate.
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They need to make there own work/income till a better opportunity comes along, again hard work...

[MD_Titus]

that's a wonderfully simplistic view.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

that's a wonderfully simplistic view.

That's how I did it since age 14 till today, only a couple of employers along the way.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by kendo65

We've seem the full gamut in threads on this very forum over the last few weeks - everything from those mad corrupted scientists through the (usual suspect) Marxists and socialists, athiests, even homosexuals a few weeks back. Everything is fair game if it allows them to sustain their cosy cocoon of denial.

Personally I would choose to blame the vegetarians.

[arthursmedley]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Personally I would choose to blame the vegetarians.

My God, you're right! Hitler was a veggy. So was Gandhi and L. Ron Hubbard!!

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by kendo65

In UK the richest 1% control a quarter of the total wealth.
69% of land is owned by 0.3 % of the population.
In 1997 the Uk's thousand richest held wealth of £99 billion; in 2010 this had risen to £336 billion.

In both USA and UK over the last 30 years real wages have declined - a direct consequence of neoliberal economics with ever-increasing globalisation and outsourcing of jobs. This decline in real wages was the main reason for the massive expansion in credit needed by ordinary families to sustain their standard of living. We saw how that ended in 2008.

Forget your socialist and Marxist bogeymen. Your real worry should be the current version of capitalism that is the most efficient means ever devised of transferring wealth from the middle and lower classes to the already rich.

As the American and European middle classes continue to see their standard of living eroded, and as we edge closer to the seemingly inevitable collapse of the Euro maybe you should remind yourself that it wasn't Marxism or socialism that created this mess.

edit: and the atheists didn't have too much to do with it either..

and I'll just point out that I don't consider myself to be either a socialist, Marxist or athiest

Actually, it was Socialism.... all the PIIGS are Socialist countries and the home loan laws of the US socialist Government (Clinton Democrats) was the fuse.


The hilarious thing about the "wealth redistribution" part of "Climate Change" is... those bucks are going from the West to the poorer countries so they can build power stations. Yes! CO[sub]2[/sub] emmitting power stations.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by arthursmedley

My God, you're right! Hitler was a veggy. So was Gandhi and L. Ron Hubbard!!

Yep and so was Charles Darwin and Bob Dylan and Ozzie Osborne. Atheist Hippy splitters the lot of them.