SoWC:BoB Multisquad Campaign Starting

[5./JG27.Farber]

I did a simular test on the 109, IAS at SL is 460kmh and 420kmh at 5k... Thats at 1.3 Ata not full throttle with boost but theres not a great deal of difference.

I have tracks if anyone wants them.

[Osprey]

I'll put my neck out here and suggest that the castrated Hurricane be replaced by the Spitfire MkIa. The present Rotol is so poor as to be fodder, it can barely catch the bombers now, and if a human flies the Stuka then I would have my money on the Stuka to win the dogfight

The Spitfire Ia is porked so badly it is a closer match to the RL Hurricane than the Hurricane is, only in game it can turn which the Hurricane cannot - that is also true to RL given that the Hurricane could out turn the Spitfire. So, you have an FM which is a closer match to RL, but you have a plane shape that is totally different - this is the dilemma.

[bw_wolverine]

I actually don't really care about this bit, to be honest. 401 will be in Hurricanes regardless.

If it's a slaughter, it's a slaughter. I don't think the IIa, the Ia, or anything the Reds have is able to compete with a competently flown 109 right now. The IIa maybe, but only if you catch the other guy unawares or at lower altitude than you.

It's really going to come down to who can position their forces best.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by Osprey

I'll put my neck out here and suggest that the castrated Hurricane be replaced by the Spitfire MkIa.

It would not be the BoB without the Hurricane, it would be the dance of the spitfire

I think its best we keep the Hurricane. Not all of the blue fighter pilots will be flying 109's, some will be flying 110's.

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

It would not be the BoB without the Hurricane, it would be the dance of the spitfire

I think its best we keep the Hurricane. Not all of the blue fighter pilots will be flying 109's, some will be flying 110's.

There's very little that is BoB about the game currently. At best, it's a weird alternate history version. But let's have some fun with what we have

Bring it on.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

There's very little that is BoB about the game currently. At best, it's a weird alternate history version. But let's have some fun with what we have

Bring it on.

Very sporting approach Wolverine! Good man

..and dont forget, half of the 109's you face will be out gunned!

[Osprey]

15 secs versus 1 minute. I see what you are saying in weight per second but that's not a strictly true statement. What really matters is guns on target anyway - I can have 12 hispanos but if my ride is so inferior it can't get it's guns on target then even 1 peashooter is the better option. Still, I might surprise someone, and if the IIa's can keep the 109's occupied then I can bring down 3 bombers no probs. Just be warned, not everyone is as happy to die as Wolverine


Slow down the bombers Farber and don't make them too high. The Hurricane is a dog, 1C personally made sure it was ruined.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Bf109 E1 has four machine guns, the wing mounted ones dont carry half as much ammo.

Glad you are brining some passion to the fight! It will make it more challenging!

S!

[bw_wolverine]

I think we all know the issues.

We should treat the campaign as an opportunity to run some nice coordinated squadron action and whatever happens happens.

I want to shoot down the enemy before he gets me as much as the next guy! I'd like to survive this campaign. That's my goal. Shooting down enemy bombers and fighters is secondary objective.

So if I get up to altitude, spot a bomber formation and attack it, drawing 109s onto me, I'll dive or evade as much as possible to get back towards England. If its inevitable that I get shot down, then that's that, but if I can bail out over England and fight another day, well that's one or two 109s that I drew away from the bombers plus I survived.

No kills for me, but I still call it a good contribution.

The statistics page is going to heavily lean towards the Blue I'm afraid. I'm okay with that simply because it really doesn't matter to me with my own personal goals that I feel are achievable with what I have. I will be tracking No.401 performance in this campaign on my own based on my own criteria anyway.

After all, in a war there's never some overarching body that declares the winner at the end of a battle. Both sides make their own conclusions and carry on from there.

EDIT: I will add this though. I think anyone who brags about 'winning' these scenarios or even in dogfight servers is expressing incredibly poor form given the state of the game. I hope that both sides will understand and respect that. No one in historical re-enactments brags about being on the winning side. They're just happy to be able to participate in the event and thankful that there were people portraying the opposing side. So I'm thankful we have human Blue opposition and human Red allies. We all win.