Man Made Global Warming

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Helrza

read my 2nd last post. This was way back in the 90's. Its 20 years later.

I have no idea why you think that is significant.

[Helrza]

not a matter of being significant, just a case of ppl saying exactly the same thing you said in the post i quoted of yours. 20 years on, coastal cities arnt under water or washed away because of global warming, and the glaciers are still melting away.

Just a quick one, i had a good laugh the other day, anyone who reads the daily telegraph in sydney might have seen the artical a few days ago on the front page continued on page 11, apparently, global warming wasnt causing the oceans rising.... The simple fact that we were using water and that used water entering the oceans was the cause. Lol! Looks like no one is too sure wats happening.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Helrza

not a matter of being significant, just a case of ppl saying exactly the same thing you said in the post i quoted of yours. 20 years on, coastal cities arnt under water or washed away because of global warming, and the glaciers are still melting away

I have no idea what you are talking about. All I know is that that the glaciers continue to disappear.

The water continues to rise and the band plays on.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Helrza

Just a quick one, i had a good laugh the other day, anyone who reads the daily telegraph in sydney might have seen the artical a few days ago on the front page continued on page 11, apparently, global warming wasnt causing the oceans rising.... The simple fact that we were using water and that used water entering the oceans was the cause. Lol! Looks like no one is too sure wats happening.

Article.

And there isn't a single climatologist who thinks that the oceans are rising because we are using water. Seriously, don't be a moron.

[Helrza]

moron? Lmao, settle down there champ. Im sharing something that i found quite amusing which was in the papers found by an apparent climate change expert rofl, obviously the subject is too serious for you to even see the funny side of it all. No need for the name calling mate

look, ill leave you with it anyways, seems like you dont know what anyone is talking about, but your pretty well convinced that we are all doomed have a good one david

p.s. post me a pic of you ready and waiting for the impending doom in your scuba gear

[Skoshi Tiger]

Don't knock the Conservationists.

Mid last year I put on a 3.6KW solar system on my roof when the WA Government wa paying us 47c a KW subsidy locked in for 10 years. Since the current price per KW is about 19c at the moment, I haven't payed a power bill in nine months!

My system should pay itself off in five years and then I've still got four years with the subsidy.

Unfortunately the subsidy was too popoular so they cancelled the program. Hmmm! guess who was loosing money?? Our power company where the government is the major share holder!

Now I may not put much faith in global warming but the power company can go jack it's self!

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I have no idea what you are talking about. All I know is that that the glaciers continue to disappear.

The water continues to rise and the band plays on.

He mentioned studies which said, some pacific island will be under wanter by 2010! - However it is still there and fine. As the sea level has only risen 1.2mm.

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I have no idea what you are talking about. All I know is that that the glaciers continue to disappear.

The water continues to rise and the band plays on.

Well the band better know allot of tunes because the waters taking its sweet time...

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Don't knock the Conservationists.

Mid last year I put on a 3.6KW solar system on my roof when the WA Government wa paying us 47c a KW subsidy locked in for 10 years. Since the current price per KW is about 19c at the moment, I haven't payed a power bill in nine months!

My system should pay itself off in five years and then I've still got four years with the subsidy.

Unfortunately the subsidy was too popoular so they cancelled the program. Hmmm! guess who was loosing money?? Our power company where the government is the major share holder!

Now I may not put much faith in global warming but the power company can go jack it's self!

Yes its funny that isnt it. Same thing happened in the UK and now its not worth doing except out of the goodness of your green heart. Maybe Andy and David will get them then?

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by CWMV

At one point there was overwhelming consensus, both in the science and layman communities, that Africans were inferior to Caucasians, the earth was the center of the universe, and that piltdown man was a legitimate human evolutionary ancestor.

Thank God we have this same consensus in this manner.
Taxes are always a bad thing, and taxes that support bigger government are the worst.
Deliver mail, protect the nation. Taxation for the support of extreem enviro-socialism is just awful.

got to love the summation of environmentalists as communists. must be an american thing? then again, i know brits who refer to anyone even remotely concerned about the environment as commie so who knows. right wing thing?

i'm unsure as to how much of global warming is down to man and how much is just a natural cycle (whihc i think probably reflects the general situation, we can't really know as the data, whilst indicative of human impact, is not wholly conclusive) but i basically come down on the "pumping chemicals and agents, whether naturally occuring or not, into the atmosphere at higher levels than they would naturally occur cannot be good" camp.

but then i also couldn't give two tugs of a dead dog's todger about it. i live on a hill and would like a beach front property within the next 50 years. i also laugh at the "we're killing the planet" brigade because, well, we're not. we're just responsible, to a greater or lesser extent, for a mass extinction event. the planet will be fine, life will continue. we may not.

i do laugh at the climate change denial stuff though. up there with the best conspiracy theories, in that it almost completely ignores scientific data, measurements of polar icecaps, glaciers, etc etc. like the "mmr causes autism" thing.

hilarious 'til you realise these people are serious.

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by Helrza

not a matter of being significant, just a case of ppl saying exactly the same thing you said in the post i quoted of yours. 20 years on, coastal cities arnt under water or washed away because of global warming, and the glaciers are still melting away.

Just a quick one, i had a good laugh the other day, anyone who reads the daily telegraph in sydney might have seen the artical a few days ago on the front page continued on page 11, apparently, global warming wasnt causing the oceans rising.... The simple fact that we were using water and that used water entering the oceans was the cause. Lol! Looks like no one is too sure wats happening.

that's because we're applying a human time scale to geological processes.

that a newspaper report gets the science so wrong is no surprise, science reporting in general is shoddy if not entirely misleading. have a read of some ben goldacre to get an idea of how badly it is gotten wrong.

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

It's funny watching people on the internet saying that we should ignore scientists.

corpernicus anyone?