Man Made Global Warming - Page 15

Walshy · #**141** 06-01-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward

This isn't science class and I'm not your teacher. You'll have to look up the evidence ion your own. I'm just telling you what the scientific consensus is.

BTW, I'm pretty sure that climatologists did not ignore the sun as a possible cause.

Actually a lot of models Freeman Dyson was on about, which you discredited out of hand, didn't factor in the sun's output, the clouds, dust in the atmosphere, the carbon sinks and the general biomass of the planet.

5./JG27.Farber · #**142** 06-01-2012, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward

You seem to be missing the point (no surprise there). The temp is rising. That means there is a source that is increasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. If volcanic activity is not increasing, the CO2 must be coming from somewhere else.

OK but what if CO2 isn't actually effecting anything significantly?

David Hayward · #**143** 06-01-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Walshy

Actually a lot of models Freeman Dyson was on about, which you discredited out of hand, didn't factor in the sun's output, the clouds, dust in the atmosphere, the carbon sinks and the general biomass of the planet.

Computer models are not the only evidence of global warming. They are nothing but a tool to try to predict how bad it will get. Again, Dyson is NOT an expert. Stop trolling.

David Hayward · #**144** 06-01-2012, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

OK but what if CO2 isn't actually effecting anything significantly?

Indeed. It could be the tooth fairy. But climatologists seem to think it's important, so it's probably a good idea to listen to them.

Walshy · #**145** 06-01-2012, 11:01 PM

And the figures have been doctored to suit their personal agendas so the model they're running looks right and get that government grant of course ...........................

http://news.mongabay.com/2007/0817-nasa_snafu.html

Look up "Climategate" on google ..................

Walshy · #**146** 06-01-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward

Computer models are not the only evidence of global warming. They are nothing but a tool to try to predict how bad it will get. Again, Dyson is NOT an expert. Stop trolling.

Listen mate the only one trolling is now you ................. call me that again and I'll report you to the mods ........

David Hayward · #**147** 06-01-2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Walshy

And the figures have been doctored to suit their personal agendas so the model they're running looks right and get that government grant of course ...........................

Sparky, virtually every glacier on the planet is disappearing. Unless there are bunch of scientists melting them with hair dryers every night, that isn't something that can be doctored.

Just out of curiosity, have you stopped to consider why climatologists aren't changing their positions after "climategate"?

David Hayward · #**148** 06-01-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Walshy

Listen mate the only one trolling is now you ................. call me that again and I'll report you to the mods ........

Interesting. So it's ok for you to call me a troll, but I can't do the same to you?

Walshy · #**149** 06-01-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward

Interesting. So it's ok for you to call me a troll, but I can't do the same to you?

You bleedin started it mate ................ and I'm not, never have or will troll. Period. But what gets me is you constantly calling me one .................

MadBlaster · #**150** 06-01-2012, 11:14 PM

the earth is a closed system. 3 forms matter -> liquid, solid gas. the supply of carbon-> finite. we burn the carbon. it goes from liquid (petrol/oil) to gas CO2. Plants absorb the carbon gas and the carbon turns into solid. it is really lame such simple concept that I learned in preschool has been a bastardized and manipulated into one of the greatest frauds in human history. the phd jump in an say, well, its the ratio that will destroy the planet and end civilization. no, it doesn't matter. you are fraud shitzter trying to exploit, mr phd. go read "limits to growth" that came out in 1970. stupidest book on the planet. even if it is warming, for whatever reason, this means even more plants to absorb the carbon and new equilibrium because the system is closed. everyone go plant a lawn or garden if your that worried about it. stop spreading lies and deviance. my last words on this.