Bad German Dialogue

[Aeon]

It's true, the dialogues are hilarious. However, your examples of poor grammar are wrong. It is actually called "für das Vaterland", "nimm das", "Feuer auf mein Kommando" or "hilf mir".

[KnightFandragon]

Well the Shit my leg part, that is most likely what htey say when the guys get shot...But yeah, the voice acting in MoW is so bad I like it, its great for random laughs...my favorite is in the first russian mission when your guys attack that Machinegunner...

[DMS|Instinct]

The German dialogue is correct. If at all, the German and Russian dialogues are the only ones with correct grammar.

"Feuer auf mein Kommando" means "fire at my orders| wait for my orders", or a temporary "hold fire" until orders change by implying this will happen soon. Therefore it could also be translated in "Get ready to fire".

Mich is not used in help me, as mir is a dative expression and defines the receiving person. Using mich is as bad as saying "help my".

Kommando means orders in that context and not commando unit.

German articles don't follow gender rules, they are the only grammatical part of the language that don't follow any rule, at least when it comes to defining genders. In case of Vaterland, the article relates to the last word in the word combination which is Vater + Land (father + country), and Land is "das Land". Therefore "das Vaterland".

"Nimm das" is correct too, not sure what you think "DA" is.

"Scheiße, mein Bein", means as much as "Shit! My leg!", it's nothing but a short expression of pain and while perhaps not an example of the beauty of the German language, absolutely common and correct.

[Patchman123]

Originally Posted by DMS|Instinct

The German dialogue is correct. If at all, the German and Russian dialogues are the only ones with correct grammar.

"Feuer auf mein Kommando" means "fire at my orders| wait for my orders", or a temporary "hold fire" until orders change by implying this will happen soon. Therefore it could also be translated in "Get ready to fire".

Mich is not used in help me, as mir is a dative expression and defines the receiving person. Using mich is as bad as saying "help my".

Kommando means orders in that context and not commando unit.

German articles don't follow gender rules, they are the only grammatical part of the language that don't follow any rule, at least when it comes to defining genders. In case of Vaterland, the article relates to the last word in the word combination which is Vater + Land (father + country), and Land is "das Land". Therefore "das Vaterland".

"Nimm das" is correct too, not sure what you think "DA" is.

"Scheiße, mein Bein", means as much as "Shit! My leg!", it's nothing but a short expression of pain and while perhaps not an example of the beauty of the German language, absolutely common and correct.

Can't the German soldiers shout "Scheiße! Meine Arm!" or whatever body part(s) happen to be hit by certain bullets that are causing pain to that part of the body?

Can we have Soviet soldiers saying in the Russian version of a German accent "HANDE HOCH!"

Is it possible to have a Men of War game where you can capture prisoners and have them shipped to various POW camps behind the lines and out of the front line? Is it possible to have their surrenders be ACTUALLY accepted and have them taken prisoner if they are losing the battle and don't want to be killed.

I grow tired of this "kill 'em all" mentality prevalent in video games. How about losing points if you kill a prisoner?

Of course, the one part that bothers me about the Men of War series is that they do not show the various and well-documented war crimes committed by the Soviets and the Nazis and to show them within their proper context.

Evgeny Petrovich Kolesnikov's mother is raped by the German Wehrmacht and he hears news of this and it unnerves him and unsettles him, as it would anyone, mind you.

At least the Penal Battalions game shows the utterly inhumane treatment that many in the Red Army had to endure.

I do not want glorification of these war crimes, I just want them to affect the players in a negative way and make them fight HARDER AND HARDER against the enemy.

The rather odious and numerous war crimes are strangely absent in this game.

Yeah folks! This is Putin's "version" of history in these games! The history that everyone who has a shred of humanity knows about in the West and your bullshit denials of these atrocities aren't gonna change my mind!

I'm sorry!

[Patchman123]

Originally Posted by Aeon

It's true, the dialogues are hilarious. However, your examples of poor grammar are wrong. It is actually called "für das Vaterland", "nimm das", "Feuer auf mein Kommando" or "hilf mir".

What are YOU going to do about it? Of course, no one is going to have the German soldiers shout "Für der Führer!" instant ban over in Germany!

I don't hear the Soviet soldiers chanting "За Сталина," either. Of course, being how loathed Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin truly are, of course it won't happen!

[Patchman123]

Originally Posted by Aeon

It's true, the dialogues are hilarious. However, your examples of poor grammar are wrong. It is actually called "für das Vaterland", "nimm das", "Feuer auf mein Kommando" or "hilf mir".

How about we look at IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 and its German dialogue? "Ich steige aus" is the wrong way to say that you are bailing out, when you would say "Ich springe ab!" to tell everyone over the air that you are bailing out.

How come the German pilots shout on the airwaves in a stereotypical German fashion, like that lady from Austin Powers?

Yeah, seriously? How come the Americans shout "For the Motherland?" Seriously? Who in America says something like that? A more appropriate phrase would be (and I hope that Men of War adds THIS in future games, "FOR UNCLE SAM!" Of course, FDR was not like Stalin or Hitler, even though he was highly criticized at the time for allying the USA with the Soviet Union. Why not just replace the "FOR THE MOTHERLAND" phrase with "FOR UNCLE SAM?!"

Are the soldiers going to shout "FOR THE EMPIRE!" for the British? "FOR THE COMMONWEALTH?" How about we have soldiers with Australian and New Zealand accents, like we saw at Crete? However, the Australian and New Zealand accents were strangely absent in the actual game that you can play and we hear regular British accents.

How about you have English spoken with a Polish accent by actual Polish-speakers in IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 where you hear stilted or heavy Polish accents over the radio when the Polish pilots are commanding airplanes to shoot down enemy planes, while hearing British voices vectoring the planes to the enemy formations? These Polish pilots are speaking with Polish accents over the radio in English. Of course, Czech accents are similar and we could do the same thing for the Czechs in IL-2 Sturmovik 1946? Norwegian accents for the Norwegians? And all the various non-English speaking personnel that constituted the RAF during World War II?

How about we have Canadian accents in the Men of War series? I would love to hear a French-Canadian accent, spoken by various French-Canadian soldiers in the Canadian Army in the game. I would love to hear a genuine Canadian accent in English.



IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 has Australian accents for the Australians and the New Zealand faction in IL-2 Sturmovik.

Were Polish pilots fighting for the Soviet Air Force allowed to speak Polish over the radio? How about you have Russian that is spoken with a Polish accent in the game?