Throwing some light on rates of turn

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Hmmm.....did you also notice that in a flat out dive, it's very difficult to get over 410mph IAS, and at 420mph IAS your ailerons fall off?

According to the Spit I pilot's notes provided with the collector's edition, max safe speed in a dive is 450mph IAS.

I lost my starboard wing last night in a steep dive on the ATAG Server, but did not note the airspeed at that moment -- obviously 420 mph IAS or more. But both your observations and Crumpp's point to some further tweaking on that aspect of the Spit's DM.

@Crumpp -- I agree that something serious should have broken (or at least bent) with a hard "assymmetrical" (is that the right term? Dunno!) pullout such as you did. Did you black out during the pullout? My reason for asking is that other threads are noting that full control surface deflection is not being achieved with the Spitfire under random circumstances. That would've resulted in a gentler pullout than you had intended, provided you had enough altitude to recover. But if you did experience blackout in the pullout that would be a fair indicator that the elevator was indeed doing its job as you intended -- and something should've gone crunch IMHO. (I've crunched lotsa virtual Spits and Hurries in Cliffs of Dover LOL).