Analysis of real life 109E performance for CloD

[Seadog]

Historically, under 10,000 ft, the Hurricane I was superior to the Me109e due to its better turn radius, and with 12lb boost, better climb rate, and was only slightly slower. At very low altitudes, say under 5000ft the Me109e was at a severe disadvantage as it could no longer dive away to disengage, and it did not have a sufficient, if any, speed advantage when the Hurricane pilot "pulled the plug" and the Hurricane could easily turn inside the 109e.

[JtD]

It would still be able to extend using negative g manoeuvres. Maybe the Hurricane was the superior dogfighter down low, but I don't think it was the superior fighter aircraft.

[Seadog]

Originally Posted by JtD

It would still be able to extend using negative g manoeuvres. Maybe the Hurricane was the superior dogfighter down low, but I don't think it was the superior fighter aircraft.

No, it wasn't the overall equal of the 109E, and at high altitude was at a severe disadvantage, but then the main role of the Hurricane (and Spitfire) was to shoot down Luftwaffe bombers, and engaging the fighter escort was a very secondary task. The 109E had a favourable kill ratio over either RAF fighter because they were trying to engage the bombers while the 109s were, largely, freed to bounce the RAF fighters from above.

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by Seadog

Historically, under 10,000 ft, the Hurricane I was superior to the Me109e due to its better turn radius, and with 12lb boost, better climb rate, and was only slightly slower. At very low altitudes, say under 5000ft the Me109e was at a severe disadvantage as it could no longer dive away to disengage, and it did not have a sufficient, if any, speed advantage when the Hurricane pilot "pulled the plug" and the Hurricane could easily turn inside the 109e.

It wasnt superior but with +12 lbs emergency boost it was also seriously opponent for 109 at low altitude. Polish Pilots from 303SQN proof these enough. Hurricane I with +12 lbs and CSP could be very close to 109 E speed at low level alt. Of course 109 was better plane these is not question about it but in some cases Hurricane could be fair opponent ( better turn at low to medium alts, comparable climb and speed at 12 lbs emergency power at low alts).

I read some interesting combat raports from Skalski who had fight with 109 E starting at higher alts when 109 attacked him and they made circles and 109 was very close in these to Hurricane but when fight drop to medium and low alts Hurricane could outturn and outmanouver 109 which was shoted down by Skalski.