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Old 05-18-2012, 09:56 PM
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Nonsense, the documents showed quite clearly how much fuel was already in France (attached) and other papers in the series showed the projected requirements.
Your document says absolutely nothing about fuel "in" France. It talks about requirements and estabilishments.

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Present Establishment is what they currently are authorised to have plus they need an additional 200,000 gallons. In the same way the additional guards are an extra establishment. The current guards would be described as the present establishment

If we follow your logic then the RAF in France had no fuel of any description because you are turning all the current fuel (present establishment) into future requirements.

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Old 05-18-2012, 10:28 PM
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[QUOTE=Crumpp;427314]Your document says absolutely nothing about fuel "in" France. It talks about requirements and estabilishments.

Why would they require a fuel that they aren't using?

Are you now claiming that UK technology was so far in advance of the Germans that RAF fighters could use 12lb boost with 87 octane fuel? We have clear and unequivocal use of 12lb boost over France in May 1940...

According to your line of reasoning It's no wonder that Galland begged for a squadron of Spitfires...
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We are still waiting for the list of the 16 squadrons that were the only squadrons using 100 octane fuel and 12lb boost in Sept 1940.

We are still waiting for an explanation on how the RAF consumed ~50,000 ton of 100 octane fuel during the BoB, despite the claimed shortage of said fuel.
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:25 PM
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According to your line of reasoning It's no wonder that Galland begged for a squadron of Spitfires...
You do know he was being sarcastic just to get at goering right?
I see some people who actually believe galland wanted spits which is just not the case.
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:29 PM
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No he wasn't, he was sick of those little girlie 109's and wanted a mans aeroplane
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You do know he was being sarcastic just to get at goering right?
I see some people who actually believe galland wanted spits which is just not the case.
Crump/Kurfurst believe that the Merlin could run at 12lb boost on 87 octane fuel with greatly improved performance. If their thesis is correct, and Galland also knew this, then, of course, he would have tried to light a fire under Goering's butt.
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Old 05-20-2012, 12:29 AM
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Son, you have had some issues expressing a coherent thought of your own, so I guess you should fix that before lending a hand and tell what others believe..
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:18 AM
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Just what do you believe?

It's hard to keep track.

We know that Hurricane/Spitfire pilots were pulling 12lb boost over France in May 1940, and we also know that you are "cynical" about the RAF using 100 octane fuel in that time frame...so it seems that you must believe that the Merlin could run at 12lb boost on 87 octane fuel.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:39 AM
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Just so there isn't any confusion what is your belief re 100 Octane in France?
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