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Old 05-18-2012, 04:17 PM
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Why decreased in max. level flght?
Inncrease the area of our lifting surface = more drag

If you know how to do sections, then you know the common expression in propeller blade element theory is Cb for chord length and our local section Drag is expressed as:

~D = 1/2pVb^2CbCD
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:41 PM
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OK Gents,

I've read this thread with fascination, but the details are WAAAAY over my head. Do you have a conclusion, ie, IL2 is way off or it is close enough for a $40 flight sim that is a decade old?

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Old 05-18-2012, 06:50 PM
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lol, I have no idea.

maybe add some sound effects when the tip speeds go mach.

maybe add some sound effects to p47 turbine spinning up.

I did notice in up3, rc4, there seems to be turbo lag in the dial indicator verses the engine rpm indicator. so somebody was thinking good thoughts. i think it was a mod p47, maybe p47B. felt a little more agile than the others too.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:25 PM
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bf109k4 :3-blade prop
spitfire xiv:4-blade prop even 5-blade
Try to find a WWII fighter with cowl guns and a 4 bladed propeller. I cannot think of a single one.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:21 PM
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OK Gents,

I've read this thread with fascination, but the details are WAAAAY over my head. Do you have a conclusion, ie, IL2 is way off or it is close enough for a $40 flight sim that is a decade old?

Cloyd
Read this article and you will know high-speed propeller was a leading edge issue in WWII when people didn't know much about the transonic aerodynamiacs(0.8-1.0 Mach). They even could NOT precisely test the propeller efficiency at high speed in fullscale wind tunnel.

http://aerade.cranfield.ac.uk/ara/19...report-640.pdf

Il2 is a very closed simulation when speed is below 0.8 Mach, but when speed of anything(wing, propeller tip,etc) is beyond 0.8 Mach, not very accurate.
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:09 AM
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Read this article and you will know high-speed propeller was a leading edge issue in WWII when people didn't know much about the transonic aerodynamiacs(0.8-1.0 Mach). They even could NOT precisely test the propeller efficiency at high speed in fullscale wind tunnel.

http://aerade.cranfield.ac.uk/ara/19...report-640.pdf

Il2 is a very closed simulation when speed is below 0.8 Mach, but when speed of anything(wing, propeller tip,etc) is beyond 0.8 Mach, not very accurate.
I have been flying this sim for over a decade, and I really only know how to fly two planes well - I-153 and F4F-3. (Yes, I realize that neither of these was available in the initial release.) Is it safe for me to assume that I don't have to worry about the performance of my preferred rides in the 0.8 to 1.0 Mach range?

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Old 05-19-2012, 01:21 AM
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If you ever go that fast in an I-153, you have a problem. And almost certainly, no wings...
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