Evgeny: why no SOW updates any more?

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by Golf Pro

If there aren't going to be any useful updates on this forum, then I wonder if it would just be better to close it down and direct everyone back to the Ubisoft forums.

It would save 1c a bit of time and money, and everyone is used to not receiving any useful info over at Ubi anyway.

Interesting point. So you say you a) don't visit the official Forums any longer because you were b) invited or officially "directed" to this place and c) were promised exclusive updates here?

Well that's really odd, because
1. This is not a forum for Storm of War, but for IL2
2. Nobody said this forum is worth any more than UBI. Infact both forums are from the publishers, neither is from Maddox-Games, the producers.
3. I don't know why you got here, but I did BECAUSE of the pictures released here. Complaining now, that this forum is useless seems a bit narrow-minded, considering that.

[Golf Pro]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

Interesting point. So you say you a) don't visit the official Forums any longer because you were b) invited or officially "directed" to this place and c) were promised exclusive updates here?

Well that's really odd, because
1. This is not a forum for Storm of War, but for IL2
2. Nobody said this forum is worth any more than UBI. Infact both forums are from the publishers, neither is from Maddox-Games, the producers.
3. I don't know why you got here, but I did BECAUSE of the pictures released here. Complaining now, that this forum is useless seems a bit narrow-minded, considering that.

I dunno how you managed extract so much hidden meaning from what I said. Were you invented by Agatha Christie?

I think the attraction of this forum for most visitors was that as Oleg and co. no longer visited Oleg's Ready Room, the place to get information on new developments, be they SoW or Il-2, was over here on the 1C forums. As there will be no new development of Il-2, and as it appears that Ubi themselves have proscribed Oleg from making updates here (or so I understand) this forum doesn't offer anything extra that the Ubi forums do.

This is not an attempt to be polemical, but a simple attempt to pose a fair question. Maintaining two forums costs both publishers money, and also splits information that is valuable to the community between two sites. It really isn't very efficient. So, is it not reasonable to ask if one or other site is absolutely necessary?

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Golf Pro

Maintaining two forums costs both publishers money, and also splits information that is valuable to the community between two sites.

2/0 = 0 and division by zero is not allowed

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by mazex

2/0 = 0 and division by zero is not allowed

LOL this one should be better explained, in my world x/0=infinity... but I'm too rusted maybe.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Insuber

LOL this one should be better explained, in my world x/0=infinity... but I'm too rusted maybe.

You're right - I was writing to fast with a son over my shoulder . It should naturally be:

0/2 = 0 and 2/0 = not allowed (infinity).

[Feuerfalke]

Do you really think it is just a fair question with no sense behind it but just the idea that it would safe 1Cs money, since Oleg no longer posts here?

Doesn't sound that simple to me, honestly. With the same reasoning you could close down SimHQ, UBI ORR, UBI General-Forums, Russian Game Magazines, even FiringSquad.com, the RRG-Site, airwarfare.com, some photoshop-boards and the Russian Forums of this site. Oleg has posted news in a lot of medias and forums and the later for quite some time back into IL2.

Just because there is no official info on BoB makes no reason to shut down a page that is a place to talk about IL2. Well, at least not for me. Maybe the only reason why I really agree, is the fact that there are only a few threads about IL2 at all and the admins should more actively counter these repeated posts.

[robtek]

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[Golf Pro]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

Do you really think it is just a fair question with no sense behind it but just the idea that it would safe 1Cs money, since Oleg no longer posts here?

Doesn't sound that simple to me, honestly. With the same reasoning you could close down SimHQ, UBI ORR, UBI General-Forums, Russian Game Magazines, even FiringSquad.com, the RRG-Site, airwarfare.com, some photoshop-boards and the Russian Forums of this site. Oleg has posted news in a lot of medias and forums and the later for quite some time back into IL2.

Just because there is no official info on BoB makes no reason to shut down a page that is a place to talk about IL2. Well, at least not for me. Maybe the only reason why I really agree, is the fact that there are only a few threads about IL2 at all and the admins should more actively counter these repeated posts.

Well, the only difference with this site is that I believe (and I could be wrong in my assumptions here) that it was set up (in contrast to the ubi forums) to allow Oleg & Co. to directly communicate with the Il-2 community.

If what I assume is correct, then the raison d'etre for this forum appears to no longer exist. In which case it is just another Il-2 forum like Sim HQ, UBI ORR, UBI General Forums etc. etc. Nothing special in any way.

You obviously think that just another Il-2 forum is perfectly OK, which is fine. I'm just expressing doubts as to whether it's something that the Il-2 community really needs, when the same topics posted here are generally covered in at least as much detail elsewhere.

i.e. this place is nice enough, but doesn't seem to have a specific purpose....

[Bobb4]

Originally Posted by Golf Pro

to allow Oleg & Co. to directly communicate with the Il-2 community.

If what I assume is correct, then the raison d'etre for this forum appears to no longer exist. In which case it is just another Il-2 forum like Sim HQ, UBI ORR, UBI General Forums etc. etc. Nothing special in any way.
i.e. this place is nice enough, but doesn't seem to have a specific purpose....

Well I am going out on a limb here but as far as I know this site features updates (tiny indeed) that are only available here.
Oleg so far has given this site far more info than any other.
He has also released it here first.
It has then been transport elsewhere...
If I am wrong... Then what am I doing here?


But I am losing interested frankly.
Sought of reminds me of the KOTS site, lots of talk but when it gets down to deliver expect it to be abandoned for the brand new Ubisoft SOW page.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by Golf Pro

Well, the only difference with this site is that I believe (and I could be wrong in my assumptions here) that it was set up (in contrast to the ubi forums) to allow Oleg & Co. to directly communicate with the Il-2 community.

If what I assume is correct, then the raison d'etre for this forum appears to no longer exist. In which case it is just another Il-2 forum like Sim HQ, UBI ORR, UBI General Forums etc. etc. Nothing special in any way.

You obviously think that just another Il-2 forum is perfectly OK, which is fine. I'm just expressing doubts as to whether it's something that the Il-2 community really needs, when the same topics posted here are generally covered in at least as much detail elsewhere.

i.e. this place is nice enough, but doesn't seem to have a specific purpose....

Sorry, but your assumption really seems wrong, because this place was not created to give Oleg a place to directly communicate with the crowd. He does that by various means on different boards, but even at this board, he rarely does it personally. How many replies do you see on this whole board by Oleg? 20? And really, how many posts about Q&A, infos or answers to release-date-things where posted by Oleg himself??? Wasn't it his staff posting that most of the time?

Again, this is an IL2-Forum, not one for BoB. It may be a solution to the UBI-Ban, but as you can see with the promised and not kept regular updates, this board is neither his personal playground nor is it a basis for regular information that you will find nowhere else on the internet.

Honestly, though, I think that this is the main problem for most people. They came here in anticipation for news about BoB and one after another realizes, that this is just another IL2-board, with the same topics and even the same members, than most of the other forums and IMHO that is the reason why so many people feel pissed here.

This boresighting on BoB is also the reason, why only a handful of people even noticed Oleg has responded to several posts over the last weeks, just none was labeled with or containing "secret info on BoB", so nobody cared, obviously including yourself.

Nobody is forced to post here, but nobody should think that Oleg is either and especially not, if he only gets the same copy'n'paste-questions about BoB as an answer, which he is not allowed to post statements to.

So after all, if anybody is responsible for Oleg remaining largely silent IMHO is to a larger part the sound of this community. You just don't bite the hand that's feeding you.