A newbies impression of the 109 and spit

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Originally Posted by Crumpp

Who said anything about Germany losing Tornados???

They replaced the scared to death fighter pilot AWAC's moved off station, dropped all of their bombs, expended all their ammunition, and showed back up 45 minutes later ready to play some more.

The tornado pilots were brave men who were willing to fight.

I admit I thought you were, looking at the previous postings which together read


Ahh not really. Most of them I have seen are pissing their pants on the ground when we get to em.

I did that for much of the first gulf war air campaign. They might be something in a plane but out of it, they were not impressive.


That is by no means a blanket statement. I have also seen some very good guys up the air.

A couple of A10 pilots, some USMC F-18's, USN F-14's, and a couple of BundesLuftwaffe Tornado pilots stand out in my mind. They earned a seat at the table.

Clearly I read it wrong but the second part of my question is still something I am confused about. Its my understanding that Germany didn't take part in the air war over Iraq, so where did they come from? German pilots attached to the RAF were withdrawn before deployment at the request of the German authorities so it wasn't the RAF.