Is this the New Winston Churchill?

[Kodoss]

The problem of modern western economys is that they let go production in other countries and focus more on service. But that's the wrong way in my opinion, because a qualified worker in production earns more than some service worker. Also without production no service. Aslo without agriculture, no food on your table.

I don't call for "Protect your industry by taxes", just give them a frame in which they are able to compete with others. It would be also helpfull to change the productionlines to metric system. That would open a bigger market for selling.

But asking a british to change from inch to metric is like insulting them...

[bongodriver]

Try being British....you get to see threads full of this anti british crap all the time.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Kodoss

The problem of modern western economys is that they let go production in other countries and focus more on service. But that's the wrong way in my opinion, because a qualified worker in production earns more than some service worker. Also without production no service. Aslo without agriculture, no food on your table.

this is a bit generalised. The main reason to move services and productions abroad is "to cut costs" they say, what they don't seem to keen on cutting it's their profit though.
Government allowed for this for too long, which surely helped other countries standing up economically (and slowly catching up with us), but on the flipside it allowed only a certain layer of society to get wealthier, sacrificing the well being of many others.
Some stuff we can't do without importing (such as food and veg), but one thing we could surely cut on is the insanity of wanting to have ALL the products all the way through the year, completely discarding the concept of seasonal produce in favour of "I want my strawberries in January and that's it!". I've seen some jewellery shop prices for some veg at our local Morrisons lately, and frankly I wonder what the hell are they actually thinking...

I don't call for "Protect your industry by taxes", just give them a frame in which they are able to compete with others. It would be also helpfull to change the productionlines to metric system. That would open a bigger market for selling.

But asking a british to change from inch to metric is like insulting them...

It's not a matter of metric or imperial, things here have changed according to what the Government wants (petrol used to be sold in gallons in the UK, now it's litres), it's a matter of assessing an economic policy that really keeps into account all social layers and provides people with a solid job opportunity.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Kodoss

The problem of some modern western economys is that they let go production in other countries and focus more on service. But that's the wrong way in my opinion, because a qualified worker in production earns more than some service worker. Also without production no service. Aslo without agriculture, no food on your table.

I don't call for "Protect your industry by taxes", just give them a frame in which they are able to compete with others. It would be also helpfull to change the productionlines to metric system. That would open a bigger market for selling.

But asking a british to change from inch to metric is like insulting them...

fixed there.

The problem these days is that the economy has long left national boundaries and is acting internationally, without nationstates in Europe able to wield much influence over it anymore. Democracy on the national level has become a farce for the last 20 years already, in Europe and the US both.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Try being British....you get to see threads full of this anti british crap all the time.

aaawww come on man, we don't live in a perfect country, but it's not about anti-British, when people make critics to things here they're questioning the principles, not the nationality of a policy. Especially in a country with such a broad variety of ethnies and social classes, the concept of "anti-British" is terribly anachronistic.

[Kodoss]

I didn't ask that they have to give up completely on the inch system.
Gas and waterlines in germany are still in inches.
What I mean is that it would open more opportunities.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Kodoss

I didn't ask that they have to give up completely on the inch system.
Gas and waterlines in germany are still in inches.
What I mean is that it would open more opportunities.

for example?

[Kodoss]

-Better and faster calculations for productions processes,
-lesser calculation errors ( Nasa lost a Mars probe through recalculation from metric to inch(or otherwise, can't remember))
-cheaper production through gaining more producers of standart parts, also then they are closer (EU)
-better measurement system for tiny sizes (0,5625" on a digital calliper = 9/16" on an analog one(which I prefer by inch) [14,2875mm in metric] which also reduces calculation errors
-improves the possibility of slight repairs on the market( you don't have to order inch parts from far away when you are in a metric country = selling point)

Do you need more?

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

this is a bit generalised. The main reason to move services and productions abroad is "to cut costs" they say, what they don't seem to keen on cutting it's their profit though.

Question: should they not concentrate their efforts on NOT profiting? Just be in the business of hiring people??



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[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

Question: should they not concentrate their efforts on NOT profiting? Just be in the business of hiring people??

Doc, I have been a shareholder of a medium size business in the past and believe me, there's no way you can't profit. It's all down to decide whether you should make an effort yourself in a time of crisis and earn a bit less for the common good. Many are faced with this choice, but very few say yes to it.

Even worse, think about all those darn bonus schemes that private companies do: I mean, no matter how good you are, do you really think it's sane and ethically correct to concentrate big bonuses on a handful of people? I mean, are you really worth all that money?