It's not trolling, it's not the money...

[furbs]

Originally Posted by Talon89

Well I agree with you to an extent, but sometimes organizations fail because (as Verhängnis hinted at) they lack a leader with vision. Bad art style and lack of a real emotional campaign are certainly issues that could have been rectified by a leader with vision, even if the grunt work needs to be dealt with by a team.

I don't see much vision here, just bits and pieces put together and not a great *game*. It will take more than a patch to solve that, but hopefully we'll get there.

True, one of the aspects of CLOD that really lets it down is the GUI, its blocky 90's style buttons and menus leave me cold and uninterested.
There is no immersion or feeling of 1940, no feeling of a historic battle about to take place or being a pilot in a life or death struggle.

Take a look at this...

By furbs9999 at 2012-04-10


By furbs9999 at 2012-04-10


By furbs9999 at 2012-04-10

....from EAW released in 1998!! thats how to do menus and GUI.

Im hoping once either the SDK or BOM might address this.

[II/JG54_Emil]

Is another therapy thread?

Yes we got focked over when buying a game in alpha stage a year ago.

And yes after a fair amount of updates it runs smoother.
And yes other games are rubbish too when released.
And yes it needs more time to iron out more bugs.
And yes the game is cheaper now.
And yes you need to update your hardware.
And yes the sim has made a quantum jump from IL-2 to IL-2:CloD
And yes it´s a wonderful sim now.
And yes I´m addicted to it by now.

If you need theese sort of threads to make a primal scream therapy, go ahead.
But it doesn´t help the cause.

To all complainers out there, please do the community and the developers a favor and contribute something that is useable and of value.

(I´m in a nerd-rage after having drunk 2 buckets of coffee and having read this thread)

[reaver]

I mostly agree with Emil. There were (and are) lot of problems. Releasing game in that stage was shameless scam.Clod is still too raw for me, but i am buying BoM anyway. Even if i wont play it i will support developers because i am sure this will be great sim in few years time.

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by reaver

...I am buying BoM anyway. Even if i wont play it i will support developers because i am sure this will be great sim in few years time.

+1

[csThor]

Originally Posted by furbs

True, one of the aspects of CLOD that really lets it down is the GUI, its blocky 90's style buttons and menus leave me cold and uninterested.
There is no immersion or feeling of 1940, no feeling of a historic battle about to take place or being a pilot in a life or death struggle.

Take a look at this...

[took out the pics]

....from EAW released in 1998!! thats how to do menus and GUI.

Im hoping once either the SDK or BOM might address this.

Well, Maddox Games has always been a stout opponent for such pre-rendered GUI screens. We, part of the german community that is, have had this little discussion with Oleg years ago and he was steadfast against such 3D scenes as they would require too much work to incorporate not only all possible aircraft but also any potential location, various building types on airfields (i.e. Hangar or in front of a tent) etc and would have to be re-done for each and every new release (Oleg's arguments).

What I would have done - given the utter flexibility of the game engine - is to allow the user to design and set up his own GUI ideas: own layout, own graphics, own fonts and design characteristics ... All MG would have had to provide is a template and an API to read the user input. My 0,02 € ...

[Verhängnis]

Originally Posted by csThor

What I would have done - given the utter flexibility of the game engine - is to allow the user to design and set up his own GUI ideas: own layout, own graphics, own fonts and design characteristics ... All MG would have had to provide is a template and an API to read the user input. My 0,02 € ...

But then in doing so they just did all the work they never wanted to do.

[Danelov]

If you are in pause with CLOD...
Is not a WWII Sim but a WWI Sim I recomended: Rise of Flight.
I have discovered this one two weeks ago, first with the free demo and now in full. Excelent atmosphere and interface, friendly forum with a lot of information, service, shop; at the sim not CTD, FPS friendly and stable(You dont need a top of line PC), excelent aircraft models, FM, damaged models, superb sounds, weather effects, good scenery and airfields, you have quick mission, single mission, career, campaign, very good multiplayer, system of points(score)in line, skins, maps, addons, etc.
Really a very good sim.

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by Danelov

If you are in pause with CLOD...
Is not a WWII Sim but a WWI Sim I recomended: Rise of Flight.
I have discovered this one two weeks ago, first with the free demo and now in full. Excelent atmosphere and interface, friendly forum with a lot of information, service, shop; at the sim not CTD, FPS friendly and stable(You dont need a top of line PC), excelent aircraft models, FM, damaged models, superb sounds, good scenery and airfields, you have single mission, career, campaign, very good multiplayer, system of points(score)in line, skins, maps, addons, etc.
Really a very good sim.

Here's something else to remember, whilst i agree that its matured into a very good game, i had it from day one, and i thought it was pants for the first year or so, before they got it working well.

[bongodriver]

ROF is indeed a great looking game.
Downsides IMO are that you have to buy every aircraft and you then have to buy gunsights and other bits for those aircraft, costs rack up.
if you want a level playing field online you would need to purchase everything.

[von Pilsner]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

ROF is indeed a great looking game.
Downsides IMO are that you have to buy every aircraft and you then have to buy gunsights and other bits for those aircraft, costs rack up.
if you want a level playing field online you would need to purchase everything.

Just buy the mods for the planes you fly a lot, you don't have to buy them all unless you want to.

Oh, you were probably engaging in hyperbole to make a point....