The Crystal Ball 2

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Nett effect of all this is just damaging to the game (I believe it's the intention) this couldn't have been illustrated more clearly by the recent moronic and fake 'Black Six' post, there is no denying there are people out there hell bent on causing damage to this game and that is what I want to counter.

I wouldn`t call it intentional. IMO it`s more of the plain too much time - moronism mix.

Bongodriver said:

>>Oh and wheres my goose? <<

Well cooked...fries with that?

>>Nett effect of all this is just damaging to the game (I believe it's the intention) this couldn't have been illustrated more clearly by the recent moronic and fake 'Black Six' post, there is no denying there are people out there hell bent on causing damage to this game and that is what I want to counter.<<

Yes, of course, but why conflate that with genuine critcism? Because it's easy and fun? Because you can grandstand and do the sword-of-righteousness routine? Because you can just lump everyone in together and make out it's all rubbish?

Well, yes, you can. But one runs the risk of looking like an idiot in the process.

As intentionally for damaging the game...well, there are many replies to this, but we'll forgo the easy pot-shots such as the devs got there first etc...

If you are intent on having the last word, it helps to have a first word i.e. something to say...not just countering every time for it's own sake. Your posts, and those of Carguy, Aces, Hayward et al... need substance, not just complaining-about-the-complaining. It doesn;' go anwywhere because it can't go anywhere - especially when the underlying causes for complaint remain valid.

[bongodriver]

Just sayin'

That just about sums up all your contributions

Well cooked...fries with that?

So youre saying my goose is cooked?.....as to suggest my time has run out and great peril is about to befall me, by your hand?

Yes, of course, but why conflate that with genuine critcism?

Doesn't happen

Because you can grandstand and do the sword-of-righteousness routine? Because you can just lump everyone in together and make out it's all rubbish?

Wow and you really can't see the hypocrisy in that statement?
You really can't quite believe that some people are genuinely annoyed by the constant 'entitlement junkie' culture breeding here, and are automatically categorised as 'fanboi trolls' should they let it be known.

Well, yes, you can. But one runs the risk of looking like an idiot in the process.

You illustrate this fact very well

If you are going to ahve the last word, it helps to have a first word i.e. something to say...not just countering every time for it's own sake. Just sayin'

I remember your first words on this forum well, it started with hypocrisy and has continued since.

Bongodriver said:

>>So youre saying my goose is cooked?.....as to suggest my time has run out and great peril is about to befall me, by your hand?<<

Oh get a grip, real drama queeny stuff....never mind the anachronisms (hints of David Starkey?)

>>(genuine critcism) Doesn't happen<<

It happens all the time. You just don't like it.

>>You really can't quite believe that some people are genuinely annoyed by the constant 'entitlement junkie' culture breeding here, and are automatically categorised as 'fanboi trolls' should they let it be known.<<

No. Holier-than-thou pirouetting. People are criticising a game, not complaining that they haven't ascending to heaven.

>>I remember your first words on this forum well, it started with hypocrisy and has continued since.<<

Well then I think you need to move on, not least because you're probably remembering my 'recent' re-joining. I was a member (albeit quiet) for years before. But don't get too worked about it. Your own posts have always struck me as high-handed and rather malevolent, which fits right in with the most of the other more acerbic critic-baiters. Plus ca change.

[bongodriver]

Oh get a grip, real drama queeny stuff....never mind the anachronisms (hints of David Starkey?)

Get a grip? You are the one who started the goose cooking, go figure some guy who continuously speaks as if reciting Shakespeare (and is called Fallstaff to boot) is calling me a drama queen.

>>(genuine critcism) Doesn't happen<<

It happens all the time. You just don't like it.

Oh dear...youre not so smart are you? when quoting someone it is somewhat invalidated when the text you quote is ammended by your hand.

No. Holier-than-thou pirouetting. People are criticising a game, not complaining that they haven't ascending to heaven.

Oh lord have mercy......

Well then I think you need to move on, not least because you're probably remembering my 'recent' re-joining. I was a member (albeit quiet) for years before. But don't get too worked about it. Your own posts have always struck me as high-handed and rather malevolent, which fits right in with the most of the other more acerbic critic-baiters. Plus ca change.

Moving on...now theres a thought, if only more people could do that.

So you re-joined only so you could ask to be removed? clearly your thought processes are.......well just bizare.

Bongo...'smart' and 'smarter' seem to be recurring themes in your posts. As if you're trying to one-up all the time. Something else you would appear to have in common with Carguy, Hayward, Aces, Robtek etc. It is about appearances, not reality i.e. trying to appear to defeat the critics. But once again, the product defeats you, not the complaints.

And this is what, ultimately, it boils down to, perhaps. Deferred frustration - you and others are probably not playing the game as much as you would like (for the same reasons as the rest of us) and probably turning your mis-placed anger on the critics instead of the devs, in the mistaken belief you're clinging to higher ground, and performing a useful function. In truth, you and your sort are doing neither.

Be as wise as you like - the game is still ****ed (that's porked, to go with your cooked goose)

Check you on revisions! never mind I have let countless of your spelling/syntax/grammar errors go on the grounds that they can keep eachother company if nothing else

It's Falstaff btw, you may want to start practising your puns round about now....

And check you...'befallen' indeed...

Is that before or after 'crestfallen'?

I'll give it a rest now. I suggest you do the same. The odds say you probably can't resist a reply. We'll see.

[bongodriver]

And this is what, ultimately, it boils down to, perhaps. Deferred frustration - you and others are probably not playing the game as much as you would like (for the same reasons as the rest of us)

Ah yes...this old chestnut, because I'm here I'm not playing the game, one of the other favourite tools in the inventory.

Check you on revisions! never mind I have let countless of your spelling/syntax/grammar errors go on the grounds that they can keep eachother company if nothing else

grammar and spelling Nazi....very endearing, having failed to counter with a cohesive reply you resort to this, I may have a form of dislexia....did you consider that?

It's Falstaff btw, you may want to start practising your puns round about now....

whats an extra 'l' between friends

And check you...'befallen' indeed...

you have a problem with my use of the word 'befall'?

Is that before or after 'crestfallen'?

Why are you asking me?

I'll give it a rest now. I suggest you do the same. The odds say you probably can't resist a reply. We'll see.

But of course I will reply, your Jedi mind tricks won't work on me, your sentence should have stopped at 'I'll give it a rest now'

[Meusli]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

Bongo...'smart' and 'smarter' seem to be recurring themes in your posts. As if you're trying to one-up all the time. Something else you would appear to have in common with Carguy, Hayward, Aces, Robtek etc. It is about appearances, not reality i.e. trying to appear to defeat the critics. But once again, the product defeats you, not the complaints.

And this is what, ultimately, it boils down to, perhaps. Deferred frustration - you and others are probably not playing the game as much as you would like (for the same reasons as the rest of us) and probably turning your mis-placed anger on the critics instead of the devs, in the mistaken belief you're clinging to higher ground, and performing a useful function. In truth, you and your sort are doing neither.

Be as wise as you like - the game is still ****ed (that's porked, to go with your cooked goose)

Check you on revisions! never mind I have let countless of your spelling/syntax/grammar errors go on the grounds that they can keep eachother company if nothing else

It's Falstaff btw, you may want to start practising your puns round about now....

And check you...'befallen' indeed...

Is that before or after 'crestfallen'?

I'll give it a rest now. I suggest you do the same. The odds say you probably can't resist a reply. We'll see.

Who are you to keep wading in with the insults? Just ignore the comments and your life will become much easier, as whatever humour you trying to put into your comments is falling flat on it's face. Unless you enjoy the arguing which would not surprise me.

Bongodriver said:

>>Nett effect of all this is just damaging to the game (I believe it's the intention) this couldn't have been illustrated more clearly by the recent moronic and fake 'Black Six' post, there is no denying there are people out there hell bent on causing damage to this game and that is what I want to counter. <<

I agree with this. I also believe you are absolutely the person to do it.

I know it may sound a bit over-cooked but if there's one post that encapsulates a sense of decorum and civility, this is surely it. I would go one step further, if I may be allowed, and say that it is posts like this that allow me to sleep in my 'virtual bed' (metaphorically speaking) at night, knowing that the forum is being monitored and patrolled effectively, by those with the best interests of the game at heart.

This is to be applauded by both devs and forum members alike.

[bongodriver]

Awwww......all my hopes shattered....it's sarcasm, damned hangover has made me slow.