Steam Commentors

[Wolf_Rider]

Steam® subscriber agreement

1. REGISTRATION AND ACTIVATION.

Steam is an online service ("Steam") offered by Valve Corporation ("Valve").

You become a subscriber of Steam ("Subscriber") by installing the Steam client software and completing the Steam registration. Additionally, as a Subscriber you may obtain access to certain services, software and content ("Subscriptions") available to Subscribers. Conclusion of this contract between Valve and you takes place as soon as you access the Steam service after accepting this Agreement.


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c. No guarantees.

Valve does not guarantee continuous, error-free, virus-free or secure operation and access to steam, the software, your account and/or your subscriptions(s).

10. Exclusive remedies

a. Exclusive remedy -- steam and the software.

You acknowledge and agree that your sole and exclusive remedy for any dispute with valve with regard to steam or the software is to discontinue use of steam and cancel your account. Because some states or jurisdictions do not allow the exclusion or the limitation of liability for consequential or incidental damages, in such states or jurisdictions, valve, its licensors, and their affiliates liability shall be limited to the full extent permitted by law.

[sorak]

Steam will crumble adventually, just like AOL.. because really steam is just an AOL for games.. rubbish

[Verhängnis]

Wow Valve has made sure to write down every possible loophole to ensure it can never be at fault.
So basically you want to play this game but it requires Steam to run. You don't want Steam, but you install it anyway. Then you decide that you hate Steam after using it - you want the activation code back, and they simply tell you all you can do is stop using the product and service. Because it's not "their" fault you are using 'their' service. WTF!

So if it is an online service that is "offered" to be accepted or not - you are either forced to use it or have a pointless disk on your shelf... WTF!

If I can't own my game in future; then I am just going to pirate a copy - because from what I have heard, the cracked version of CoD is Steam free - just water and ice. Therefore it means I am most likely to pirate a copy of BoM, especially since I have already payed $110 for some false advertising - imo I deserve a discount of 100% + Interest. Happy days ahead Luthier!

[Verhängnis]

I should add; information should be free, or at least owned by those who payed for it. I'd expect that no game that has a disk should ever require an online activation - but rather one that is handled in store when you buy it - like any type of 'digital credit'.

[ATAG_Septic]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

Steam® subscriber agreement

1. REGISTRATION AND ACTIVATION.

Steam is an online service ("Steam") offered by Valve Corporation ("Valve").

You become a subscriber of Steam ("Subscriber") by installing the Steam client software and completing the Steam registration. Additionally, as a Subscriber you may obtain access to certain services, software and content ("Subscriptions") available to Subscribers. Conclusion of this contract between Valve and you takes place as soon as you access the Steam service after accepting this Agreement.


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c. No guarantees.

Valve does not guarantee continuous, error-free, virus-free or secure operation and access to steam, the software, your account and/or your subscriptions(s).

10. Exclusive remedies

a. Exclusive remedy -- steam and the software.

You acknowledge and agree that your sole and exclusive remedy for any dispute with valve with regard to steam or the software is to discontinue use of steam and cancel your account. Because some states or jurisdictions do not allow the exclusion or the limitation of liability for consequential or incidental damages, in such states or jurisdictions, valve, its licensors, and their affiliates liability shall be limited to the full extent permitted by law.

In the UK Parliament writes the law and the courts decide what the law means. I care little for such agreements, at best they might provide evidence of intent, at worst they are merely the bread and butter of the solicitors who live off their existence. I care for the laws pertaining to the purchase.

So Ner!

Septic.

[GraveyardJimmy]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Septic

In the UK Parliament writes the law and the courts decide what the law means. I care little for such agreements, at best they might provide evidence of intent, at worst they are merely the bread and butter of the solicitors who live off their existence. I care for the laws pertaining to the purchase.

IIRC signing an EULA is not legally binding in the UK and UK consumer rights etc still apply.

[Wolf_Rider]

It is a bit up and down, the world over... the difference is (basicaly) did you accept the agreement BEFORE or AFTER purchasing? and with AFTER purchasing, did you return the software within the timeframe offered or keep it?

[JG27_brook]

If this isthe kick Stream Post im all for that 'kick kick boot boot' die dog die!!

[r0bc]

I've never had a issue, not one.
I wish all of my games were on Steam.

I have no use for steam and only run it when it is absolutely required to run for CloD. (which, frankly, isn't that often so it's not that big of a deal - lol)