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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-19-2012, 01:03 PM
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I would review after a successfull patch but I wouldn't mislead potential purchasers as to what it is at present. I imagine that a lot of people here have used reviews in the past to influence purchasing decisions and just giving it a rosy glow to try and boost sales would be flat wrong imo.
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:42 PM
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Giving positive or perfect reviews for a flawed and incomplete product would only be tricking people into buying something that they will invariably dislike, and add to the already large pile of negative reviews on the net. What we want are people to be honest, give accurate reviews that accurately represent what is wrong with the product so that the devs can see what people want, and then hopefully begin fixing or adding that.

Last thing they need is more smoke being blown up their asses. They already get plenty of that here, as well as the verbal fellatio they receive every time they post 3 or more pictures of Russian huts and fences. If all they ever hear is, "OH MY GOD! Clod is perfect, you are all perfect, we love you!" Then they'll just assume they have in fact made a good game (not the case) and will just move on to making another of the same quality.

Wait! That's already happened, and is happening again!
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:43 PM
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Yep. Hold your guns until after the patch and I mean the OFFICIAL patch, not the beta. That's what new members are going to see.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:13 PM
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Wanting to support the game, and wishing it well, and crediting those who have helped and actively supported it are all good. Call it the crutch credit

But launching a thread with a provocative title and calling critics twats doesn't help the cause much. It's brief and to the point, though, i'll give you that

I'd say too many of the hardcore fans do this, but that wouldn't help the cause much either.

Equally, giving it a higher score than it deserves helps no-one. Two stars is more than enough. If the patch is very good and maybe contains a few pleasant surprises then it might justify those two stars, maybe even lurch towards three, given no dynamic campaign, dynamic weather, or sense of a game, or immersion, or a BOB.

The sense of frustration is wide-spread on all sides. Quite a lot is riding on the patch.

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Old 04-19-2012, 02:19 PM
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No one needs to drum up support for it. Either they will or wont. This is a very small community. Not a large one. Never has been not even close. Probably the smallest market share there will ever be! It is what it is. Made by people with a passion. The core players are the same.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:39 PM
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:00 PM
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No need to! Someone else will post the same thing later we can just link to them this one to refer to
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:08 PM
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There are a lot of people that post bad reviews on Amazon, even for awsome games. Even Rise of Flight got bad reviews on Amazon. I was shocked by the crap some people expect from games.
In the CLOD case tho, we can't honestly argue with bad reviews at this point.
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:21 PM
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I think you can tell by some of the 5 star ratings in there that some of the flight sim community tried to make it look good already. Those reviews tell the truth about it's current state and will hopefully deter them from ever releasing a game in such an awful state again. I am still not convinced that this patch will bring it upto a five star rating yet, I think this patch release will be how it should have been released in the first place with more patches to follow. I think then it will be 5 stars, but I think that's another 6 months off. I will write a review when the game is fixed and not until, it would be totally out of order to lie to people and would let other developers make the same mistakes.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:54 PM
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imo 2 stars max currently. It would be 1 star if I included dev-community communications/promises/rip off factor.
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