"We like the offline AI. It's realistically dumb."

smink1701 · #1 04-13-2012, 08:10 PM

Thanks guys. I'm not that sophisticated or tech savvy so when I have 15 minutes to play CloD (which I haven’t done for the last six months), I am not online or building my own missions...just QMB "Axis Advantage" stuff. This is where I'm seeing the nutty AI.

addman · #2 04-13-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by smink1701

Thanks guys. I'm not that sophisticated or tech savvy so when I have 15 minutes to play CloD (which I haven’t done for the last six months), I am not online or building my own missions...just QMB "Axis Advantage" stuff. This is where I'm seeing the nutty AI.

Sorry to hear that Smink1701 because in the quick missions the a.i are using the presets, that's why you are having a crappy experience. Think I read somewhere that you can edit the quick mission files...maybe someone else could help out with that. I create my own missions so I customize the a.i myself. It's not so difficult, try to learn the FMB basics and you can create all sorts of nice missions. Here's the link to the FMB for "dummies" guide:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3423371

and here are a few snaps from a series of missions I'm building, starring the Corpo Aereo Italiano:

Seeker · #3 04-13-2012, 08:25 PM

.I get the ridiculous barrel roll rubbish as well-

smink1701 · #4 04-13-2012, 08:50 PM

Thanks Addman.

5./JG27.Farber · #5 04-13-2012, 08:53 PM

Ive been doing quite a bit of mission making lately. Impretty sure its down to the ... button next to skill. The slider marked advanced flying is the culprit. Tone them down but dont be afraid to give them max basic flying skill.

Ive not extensively tested this but thats my experience.

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Theres a nice little description if you hold the cursor of each one. Vision is how far they can see which is effected by awareness, and as long as they are not on radio silence, they will report enemy aircraft via the HUD/radar/radio man voice.

For example I find the AI bombers best when you set these sliders in a C shape.

mxmadman · #6 04-13-2012, 08:59 PM

I experience the same phenomenon as well. The barrel rolls is the most annoying in my opinion, since an AI 109 has a faster roll rate than a player in a Spitfire.

smink1701 · #7 04-13-2012, 09:11 PM

If this is an easy fix, and the developers want a big, inviting tent to get as many new users as possible, why don't they just adjust their own slider thingies and fix the "stunt pilots on acid and Red Bull" problem???

Ataros · #8 04-13-2012, 09:26 PM

Quick missions can be edited, saved to Single missions and then flown from Single Missions or from FMB itself (file menu).

As for the bugs with barrel rolls and other please report them in bugtracker with a video illustration. It seems to me Luthier did not understand which issues with AI were meant because they paid attention to other AI issues recently which they were fixing. I do not think Luthier flies Quick Missions.

I think high Advanced Flying skills must be included into the game to represent exceptionally experienced aces. It is mission designers' task to set its level according to a mission. Maybe they were set incorrectly for QMB or set very high on purpose to prevent players from getting bored with AI in several months of everyday flying. If you think it is not correct, report it please.

Rumcajs · #9 04-13-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mxmadman

I experience the same phenomenon as well. The barrel rolls is the most annoying in my opinion, since an AI 109 has a faster roll rate than a player in a Spitfire.

The Bf 109 has a faster roll rate than the Spit but .... the AI can keep the roll rate even when flying Bf 110, bombers and even damaged bombers. And the AI pilots can achieve higher roll rate than human controlled planes. That's what is ridiculous. Obviously the AI uses a different FM (and DM) than what is available to us. I'd love to see AI pilots obey some basic physics laws.

buddye · #10 04-14-2012, 06:28 PM

The way I understand the very poor AI in the COD Quick Missions (here I and most new players start out) is that the Developers disigned/implemented the Quick Mission. Then Heinkill through trial and error found a method in the Mission Builder to make the AI better so if you want better AI you have do your own missions or use Heinkill's missions.

If my understanding is correct, why did the developer permitted us to go one year without getting the AI message sorted?

I can only believe that the developers did not understand or believe the problem/complaints about the AI.