109 elevator trim

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by robtek

I think there would only be a problem if the nose up trim gave the 109 the ability to outturn the spit/hurri in a sustained turn, which would be clearly wrong.
A "dynamic" turn is only limited by the pilot, the structural integrity of the ac and the effectivity of rudder, elevator and ailerons.

It's not. If you roll the trimm wheel full "tail-heavy", the 109 drop its speed within seconds. You can pull some lead, if the enemy is close, but you have no chance to keep the corner speed, no chance to follow negative G maneuvers, and absolutely no chance to catch the enemy in mirror-spiral.

[Martin77]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

It's not. If you roll the trimm wheel full "tail-heavy", the 109 drop its speed within seconds. You can pull some lead, if the enemy is close, but you have no chance to keep the corner speed, no chance to follow negative G maneuvers, and absolutely no chance to catch the enemy in mirror-spiral.

Yes

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

It's not. If you roll the trimm wheel full "tail-heavy", the 109 drop its speed within seconds. You can pull some lead, if the enemy is close, but you have no chance to keep the corner speed, no chance to follow negative G maneuvers, and absolutely no chance to catch the enemy in mirror-spiral.

Yes of course, you'll bleed speed due to high AoA. You can pull some lead and hit him after which you don't have to follow and you go vertical as usual. The enemy has some bullets in him already. What I am saying is that in so called real life pilot would have no chance to pull that lead at all because the trim response was not as swift and smooth. I agree on the corner speed and what you call mirror spiral, but in a vertical scissors - go figure Negative G manoeuvres against RAF? Probably not.

With the structural damage nonexistent and this trim response, this is quite important issue if you consider CloD as a simulator. If you read about the trim operation of a 109, it is rather obvious that that is not what we've got in game at the moment, hence this thread.