109 elevator trim

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Osprey thinks poeple are using them in combat.

Ive never heard of anyone doing this.

Many pilots are using it. So many actually that you won't be competetive if you're not imo.

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

The trim is so rough and over responsive If you where using it in combat it would throw your aim off.

Exactly, over responsive. It is certainly not throwing your aim off, it is helping you a big deal actually if you know how to control it. It is not too difficult to get hang of it tbh.

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Why dont you test it out for yourself? You will see how obsurd an idea it is.

Oh yes, I tested it a lot Farber. Osprey is spot on.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Robo, I would be careful before spewing assumptions like yours as truth. The elevator trim and landing flaps were separated systems altogether in Bf109. The trim was not tied to flaps to automatically adjust trim when flaps were cranked or flaps did not move if trim was applied. Both things were done separately by the pilot.

This "cheat trim" issue was cried out loud in original IL2 too, but applied to ALL planes, not only Bf109. Sure it was a bit sensitive in beta at least but much less so in later versions. Much better in CoD. And also you can check in CoD how it works, no matter how fast you move the assigned trim axle it does NOT move the trim wheel in game(cockpit) any faster and applies to Spits/Hurries as well. So there goes the theory of "cheat trim".

Maybe people should dig into the issue more than just vent in anger of something that is not there. IF there would be issues in ANY of the planes regarding the trim, for example, then Luthier and his team should fix it..regardless it being a red or blue plane as many want to categorize. Do not scream for simulation if the only way of simulation you want suits your own needs/agendas/whatever IMHO.

I can tell that I never turn in the Bf109E with Spitfire or Hurricane. NEVER. Maybe 45deg or so but after that I know I am toast as they WILL get on my 6 and blow me out of the sky. Energy is life!

I think Luthier and Co should address the FM/DM after the performance patch to pave way to an even better sequel where the issues are already squashed or much less prominent. Agree?

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!Robo, I would be careful before spewing assumptions like yours as truth. The elevator trim and landing flaps were separated systems altogether in Bf109. The trim was not tied to flaps to automatically adjust trim when flaps were cranked or flaps did not move if trim was applied. Both things were done separately by the pilot.

I never stated they were interconnected in any way.

I only stated that the wheels were placed and designed as they were so the pilot could compensate for nose-down pitch when deploying the landing flaps by spinning both wheels at once.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Point taken IT is easy to operate them, been in that Bf109G to try them.

[Varrattu]

You're lucky to fly in virtual world ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcMjh...layer_embedded

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by Varrattu

You're lucky to fly in virtual world ...

See that big metal flap moving in the background? Thats the flaps. We are talking about Elevator Trim - its the other wheel.


ROBO: I dont use the "trim-trick", I dont think its practical. If some of you guys do and some RL pilots do, then whats the problem. For me, it doesnt suit my flying stlye, I dont like getting down and dirty.

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

I dont like getting down and dirty.

The problem I see is not in the turnfight but in BnZ. And even if you personally don't use it, it should be modelled correctly, don't you agree?