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Old 04-14-2008, 07:51 AM
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I searched and i can only find used one's


Yes it will take some time to find a new one. I bought a new MSFFB 2 Red box, but I searched e-bay every 5 days or so for a few weeks. It all depends on how bad you want one, they do appear, but biding will be strong. I paid 185.00 US

Here is a couple of them

http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Sidewi...QQcmdZViewItem

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Old 04-14-2008, 01:53 PM
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CH Products rock... 1000% happy with all of my CH gear.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:31 PM
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Yes it will take some time to find a new one. I bought a new MSFFB 2 Red box, but I searched e-bay every 5 days or so for a few weeks. It all depends on how bad you want one, they do appear, but biding will be strong. I paid 185.00 US

Here is a couple of them

http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Sidewi...QQcmdZViewItem

Nice

Again money is no problem for me

i wish i could buy a new one , realy bad

But i dont now any one in the usa

I order today a used one for 132£

I realy want a new one
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:22 AM
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I still got my MSFF1 in combo with an Saitek X45 and it still works.....and if it would lay down and die i got an MSFF2 in reserve.
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Old 04-15-2008, 04:03 AM
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Wow.. I don't hear about that too often... To those who do not use FFB... it is more than just the gunshake and stall warning.. that stuff is good.. but for me it is the tactile feel.... the solenoids in a MSFFB2 do things that no spring can do... No matter how good the stick... a spring cant transfer a hole in the wing to your hand.... a FFB stick can... I have one that has been going strong since 2001... and another in the closet.. The best joystick ever made IMO. To daate anyway.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:12 AM
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Thumbs up MSFFB Sticks - one of the best!

These sticks are just the best - mine is still ok and I have brought a 'back-up' stick from Ebay (that might be the best way to go Friedric?)

Poor old Microsoft did not really know what they had got when they decided to discontinue the range.

When I recently upgraded my computer, I had to buy and old soundcard with a MIDI connection to keep my old stick going. Mine was so old, I did not have a USB connection.(desperate flight- simmer!)

Apart from its 'great feel' when flying, one of the best features I like about these sticks is that I can use the throttle and fly, using the same hand. I brought a Saitek stick and found it very awkward to do this. There are probably other sticks that can do this?

Keep trying, all the MSFFB stick flyers no exactly how you feel.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:27 AM
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Is it possible to buy and use a X45 throttle separately? I have a MS sidewinder precision pro (no FFB on that one though) and while it's very rugged, a couple of the buttons on the base are a bit unresponsive after all these years.

So, i was looking on buying a separate throttle for the extra buttons and having an extra slider (one for throttle and one for pitch). However, i think i read somewhere that the X45 can't be used on its own and you need to keep the x45 stick plugged in as well.Any ideas?
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:34 PM
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I also have an FFB2, lovely stick me thinks! The force feedback is so great with the IL-2 series especially. You can really feel it when you're on the edge of stalling on those tight turns, it's also nice how it stiffens as more air passes over the control surfaces. It would be even nicer if the sticks force moved to reflect your trim position (it does in Lockon ). I have gunshake disabled though, my aim is better without it...

Has anyone tryed the Saitek Evo ffb stick or the Logitech one? Are they any good?
The one thing I don't like about the msffb2 is that you can feel the stepper motors as you move the stick... Otherwise it's great, I've had mine for 5 yrs and the only fault is that the trigger sticks every now and then
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:07 PM
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I had an EVO with force feedback that broke a few months back, and I replaced it with the Saitek "Avi8tor". Its a good stick, but I really, really, really miss the information the "FF" gave me...its too easy to "stall out" when doing a "split s" or a "hard break" with out the shudder info...I never know how hard to pull the stick....I have to learn to fly all over again.
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