why didnt i study this in five years of thermodinamics

[Les]

Originally Posted by Slayer

The thing with this device is the heated water, you need an external source to put BTU's into the water...

What, like the sun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJeYKEpX56o

[Outlaw]

None of this has ever been suppressed. The Stirling cycle is taught in real thermo classes but, evidently, not in imaginary ones. We even had a Stirling engine in our thermo lab.

I will go out on a limb and bet that there is no university level text book printed in the last 60 years that has not covered a closed cycle heat engine (like the Stirling cycle).

Regardless, the problem is not whether or not it, "works". Everyone knows it "works". Stirling engines have been used throughout the world for hundreds of years and are in use today. The problem is with the specific power of closed cycle engines.

Just because you can turn a little flywheel on a table top does not mean it will scale up to produce megawatts of easily manageable power better than every other means of generating mechanical work.

So, in summary, no suppression, just the difficulties of reality.

--Outlaw.

[raaaid]

i had a stirling in class too but i was talking of minto wheel

or maybe you had heard about it before?

[WTE_Galway]

Its not exactly suppressed when you can buy model kits based on the principles ...

http://www.en.boehm-stirling.com/a1.html

here is another interesting principle

http://www.en.boehm-stirling.com/hb24.html



If you are interested in some really mad paranoid conspiracy theories about suppressed impossible technology look online at the crazy stuff about Bruce De Palma (brother of Brian De Palma the famous movie director) and his homo-polar "N machine". I met De Palma on a few occasions before he died and he was definitely a few feathers short of a full duck and the machine definitely does not work.

http://depalma.pair.com/

[raaaid]

heck i know the stirling machine is not supressed, its in my books

IM TALKING ABOUT THE MINTO WHEEL BEING SUPRESSED

if you show me a kit of MINTOS WHEEL(not sterling) ill be quiet

[JG52Krupi]

OMG look at this!!!!

Its a world changing invention that I have never seen before, why has it being supressed it could end all our troubles....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliced_bread

[Hood]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

OMG look at this!!!!

Its a world changing invention that I have never seen before, why has it being supressed it could end all our troubles....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliced_bread

You are sooooooo behind the times:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel

And just for Raaaid, here's something that's been supressed for millenia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by raaaid

if you show me a kit of MINTOS WHEEL(not sterling) ill be quiet

Not sure if they make a kit but here is a Mintos wheel on public display .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za9td23Vk0c

[swiss]

thats true hope supresed designs into desalinization come to light

Again: Power is not really the problem, the infrastructure is, clear? No?
Same with food, we got more than enough for the whole world, problem is getting it there.
I remember a friend of mine asked me if I was interested in 20tons(!)of potatoes - for free.
The catch was:
- you have to take all of it
- you have to pick them up
- they were too big for retail or industrial processing.
iirc they were eventually turned into biosgas.

In the end it's all about infrastructure:
We, in the north, got water but could use green power. People in the desert need water, but have potential solar power.
Problem: There is not pipeline or high voltage power line(ok, there are plans for the latter, but...).

Back to your idea:
The dry parts of a continent are usually towards the center of it. That's where you need the water. How does it get there?

And last but no least:
It's a free patent, if it did work those wheels would be all over the planet - it produces a something you can sell.

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by raaaid

i had a stirling in class too but i was talking of minto wheel

or maybe you had heard about it before?

The purpose of a text book is not to showcase every single example of a concept. That stupid wheel is simply another closed cycle heat engine, and a very bad one at that.

The reason no one knows about it is because it is useless in the real world. There are hundreds of better ways to produce power right now.


--Outlaw.