Bomber boys - bbc one

[Hood]

I'm struggling to think of anyone military we celebrate as a nation in the UK, or any military event. I guess D-Day and Battle of Britain day get a small mention but that's it. Like most countries we remember and honour the dead and the sacrifice they made.

I also view statues as reminders, not as glorification of the individual. Statues don't mean anything unless you know who the person was. As the biggest bogey man in history I'd even say Hitler deserves a statue. Problem is it wouldn't be a focus for reflection on mankind's predilection for tragedy but would be a symbol for Nazis everywhere and it might be viewed as celebratory in that context. I guess that is a thought for another time and place.

Hood

[ATAG_Dutch]

Celebrate - mark with a festival or special event

Commemorate (relating to stone, plaque etc) - be a memorial of.

Definitions from OED.

And Stern, if you can't see what was funny about that statement, given the bases of National Socialism, I'm not going to help.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Celebrate - mark with a festival or special event

Commemorate (relating to stone, plaque etc) - be a memorial of.

Definitions from OED.

Fine, why does Bomber Harris deserve a memorial then? I understand a memorial for bomber command, who celebrates everybody, but the memorial of the bomber command by means of the statue of a single controversial general? I am quite surprised you don't see my point.

And Stern, if you can't see what was funny about that statement, given the bases of National Socialism, I'm not going to help.

ah, I imagined it would have been another of your patronising comments, what I don't understand though is why everything has to be a comparison to Nazis?! We were talking about racial segregation in other countries, not Germany

the US were a racist country with or without the Nazis, which ran on a completely different agenda apparently:

This is the (in)famous sentence that the Tuskegee Airman Alexander Jefferson once said about his life as a POW and his comeback to the US: "Having been treated in Nazi capture like every other Allied officer, as we disembarked from the troop ship, a white soldier at the bottom of the gangplank shouted: “Whites to the right, n*****s to the left.” I replied: “Goddammit, nothing has changed!”

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Fine, why does Bomber Harris deserve a memorial then? I understand a memorial for bomber command, who celebrates everybody, but the memorial of the bomber command by means of the statue of a single controversial general? I am quite surprised you don't see my point.

I think we get your point, but are not entirely sure it needs to be highlighted as any proof that as a nation the UK 'celebrate' the killing of civillians, thats just ridiculous, it is merely reminding us of the existence of this character and what he accomplished (good and bad).

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

ah, I imagined it would have been another of your patronising comments, what I don't understand though is why everything has to be a comparison to Nazis?! We were talking about racial segregation in other countries, not Germany

the US were a racist country with or without the Nazis, which ran on a completely different agenda apparently:

This is the (in)famous sentence that the Tuskegee Airman Alexander Jefferson once said about his life as a POW and his comeback to the US: "Having been treated in Nazi capture like every other Allied officer, as we disembarked from the troop ship, a white soldier at the bottom of the gangplank shouted: “Whites to the right, n*****s to the left.” I replied: “Goddammit, nothing has changed!”

Again everyone is aware of this.........relevance to the OP is a bit lost.