AMD 7970HD 3Gb and CoD

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by BRIGGBOY

Is the 680 released this month a Gk104 or Gk110 and if not which ones are earmarked to be Gk110

Apparently, this month is a GK104 and the GK110 is expected after August.

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[BRIGGBOY]

Ok I know it is all speculation but I have read in a few places that the 680 is a gk110 and it might be out in February

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by BRIGGBOY

Ok I know it is all speculation but I have read in a few places that the 680 is a gk110 and it might be out in February

Pure Speculation (unfortunately )

There will be the GK104 series now. Apparently two versions of it just as they did with the GF114 core:
The GTX560 is marked GF114-325.
The GTX560ti is marked GF114-400.

And the GK110 series which will be the high-end core will come in August.


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[BRIGGBOY]

Right ok thx for explanation

[kestrel79]

How much power does a 7950 or 7970 take? I have a 650w Corsair psu. Is that good enough?

I'd be up for upgrading later this year, along with a 27" monitor.

[Momod]

I`m running a 7970 with a 600w PSU, all ok

[Flanker35M]

S!

I use a Corsair TX650 and is more than enough. I do NOT overclock which would require a bigger PSU. The 7970HD draws LESS power than 6970HD. Also getting rid of traditional HDDs in favor of SSDs is good, quite a bit less power draw and noise..even sometimes you miss the rattle of HDD Oldskool!

[Majo]

First of all I can re-confirm, as it has been mentioned before in this thread, that the HD7970 3GB GPU
works perfectly with a 600W PSU.
So no additional cost for the upgrade.

I have 2 basic systems running CloD based in P67, 2500K and 8GB RAM with the only significant difference
of the GPU a HD7970 3G vs GTX580 1,5GB.
They both run in 1920x1080, they both share, as much as possible, graphic configuration in the driver
control panels, the both share graphic options, as much as possible, in the game.

In game Graphic Options values in high, but Low in Forest, Low in building detail, Medium Effects,
Medium Decals.
Unlimited buildings.
Grass, Shadows & Roads on.
VSYNC in game On for ATI, VSYNC forced On in driver for Nvidia.
I do not want to enter much into detail because at this moment this is not the objective of this post.
Even though I am open to any specific request.
All the comparison has been done with the Black Death Track, no flying low over London for me…

With both systems I have very similar results.
Average always over 50FPS with consistent values in the 51-53 FPS.
Maximum limited to 60FPS (VSYNC ON).
Minimum 3-6FPS for Nvidia 12-15FPS for ATI.

Here, in the minimum, is where the most significant difference appears. ATI is able to handle better,
twice as better, the effects related to dust, explosions, fire and so on. Still the frame hit is excessively
stressful for the GPU.

When the hurri is blasted by explosions while is trying to take off is the moment of maximum stress
for the GPU. There are others, for example the ball of fire after the vertical crash of the wingless hurri,
or the right turn of the bf110 around the huge smoke column.

No difference in AA, that is bad. External tool FXAA works perfect in both configurations.
Shadow “flickering” same for both, neither able to correctly manage the shadows of smoke,
bad for both.

Others consideration, after a 4 times cycles of track playing the ATI reaches a stable temp. of 70ºC
with the only standard available fan/cooler. GTX580 seems to be cooler but the model I have do not
uses the standard cooler. Noise level is always at acceptable values.
Nvidia seems to be more comfortable with the original Il-2 at max. settings (not shown in FPS counters),
but ATI has solved all issues with the OGL drivers.

Beware I also belong to the "no manned cars, no manned tanks, no manned flack, just planes" lobby group.
So this could be all wrong.

Salutes, Majo.

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by Majo

Minimum 3-6FPS for Nvidia 12-15FPS for ATI.

Thanks for all the comparisons Majo, much appreciated!

It confirms that ATI7970 is the strongest card today and at the same time not enough (we need to wait for a year or more until GPUs are able to give us those 60+ fps we have with IL2 - or a miracle with Luthier's new graphic model).

Maybe it is the 1,5Gb VRAM of the GTX580 that is the limiting factor causing this lower min fps?
Is it possible to look how much % percent of the VRAM is utilized? I know for NV you can do this with NVInspector but I have no experience with ATI.

I rememeber well, the max VRAM measured (flying over London) was 2,4Gb VRAM. So maybe the GTX580 1,5Gb has its hands (ehem..chips) full very quickly thus struggles with the memory I/O much longer than the 3Gb 7970

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